Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread vitalif
Hi, I'm not a Debian developer, just a Debian user, and I want to say that I was happy to see XFCE being the default DE. Just because it's small, classic and neutral DE - which GNOME 3 definitely isn't. I think XFCE is a better default... because I think it's not that uncommon for people to

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread vitalif
Can you qualify that statement? Especially the neutral part, it is not obvious to me how a DE can be, or not be neutral. By neutral I've meant a DE without dubious solutions discussed in gnome3 flame wars all over the web. I don't really think we should also discuss it here, just because we

Re: How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?

2014-07-01 Thread vitalif
1. Could some competent person tell me the right way to tell apt that it should fail an upgrade rather than installing systemd? I guess I could make a dummy package that conflicts with systemd, but I'm sure there's a better way. I think you can just put Package: systemd Pin:

Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

2014-02-11 Thread vitalif
- Debian has sent patches upstream - Mageia is *much* smaller distribution, that packager has attended *various* systemd hackfests - Mageia package maintainer sent various patches upstream - Patches are *not* accepted based on how many people you represent or which company you work for (e.g.

Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

2014-02-11 Thread vitalif
Because it's work, for no apparent gain. I mean, the systemd people didn't just code up all that journal stuff for no good reason, but because they perceived a need to have it. And let's face it, the ability to just see the stderr output from $FAILED_JOB with systemctl status is a whole damn

Re: Call to fork

2014-02-11 Thread vitalif
Our users shouldn't care what init system we use. It's an implementation -- and purely technical -- detail of the OS. Sorry to interfere with your discussion, but it really sounds like some kind of proprietary software idea :) I'm sure a big percent of GNU/Linux (and especially Debian

Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

2014-02-11 Thread vitalif
It is of course well-known that systemd developers like to make their life more complicated and love to implement binary formats instead of writing simple text parsers, just for the sake of having fun programming them, and absolutely not because they need things like indexing. The same goes

Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

2014-02-11 Thread vitalif
Because I want logs to be plaintext in my system, not binary. Install syslog. Or maybe Debian will use both journal and syslog. I dislike the idea of binary logs so much that I want to really and totally disable journal. And I don't see why a binary log format is needed to implement the

Nginx CVE-2013-4547

2013-11-20 Thread vitalif
Hi! There is a nginx security advisory here: http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2013/000125.html Is a Debian security update expected to come out for it? -- With best regards, Vitaliy Filippov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Nginx CVE-2013-4547

2013-11-20 Thread vitalif
Is a Debian security update expected to come out for it? Yes. Nginx team has already submitted updated package to security team. Thanks for the information! I've actually found the bug stating this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730012 And what's the Debian process for

Re: Subversion 1.8.4

2013-11-20 Thread vitalif
oh ;) thanks for your checking! 1 more note: scons doc states that if you want to install package in a sandbox for packaging, you should better supply real PREFIX=/usr, and then supply --install-sandbox=./debian/tmp option to 'scons install'. Don't know if it actually affects something

Re: Subversion 1.8.4

2013-11-18 Thread vitalif
Also I did serf update as Bug#716793, please dget http://www.mithril-linux.org/~henrich/debian/package/temp/serf_1.3.2-0.1.dsc and check it, too. I've actually already seen it... But it was after I've built it by myself... :) It seems your package has cleaner debian/rules so I would

Re: Subversion 1.8.4

2013-11-16 Thread vitalif
Yes, someone needs to review it, but before that the package tests need to be fixed so they a) run and b) pass, reliably and repeatably. After that, either get the package maintainers to discuss the new version, or find someone to take over the package if they no longer want to or can maintain