Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Oh, regarding the Ubuntu installer: please configure the keyboard layout _before _prompting for the LUKS passphrase! and don't prompt for eCryptfs-protected /home, when LUKS is already configured. (Or remove support for this completely). If the user configured a network connection already, it

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:50:58AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > [*] Ubuntu doesn't bump the ABI on *every* new version, just the ones > changing the ABI. In reality this is still very frequently and hence you > achieve a rollback mechanism through it. Actually, on account of things like the

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On 08.06.2017 20:52, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > Some versions of Ubuntu (at least trusty, xenial) have the added > "feature" to keep older kernel versions when installing new ones. It > kind of makes sense to keep at least the previous one (in case of a > regression), but keeping every new

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 01:25:33AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 19:52 +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > > I would certainly reiterate this: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14003253 > > > > Some versions of Ubuntu (at least trusty, xenial) have the added > >

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 19:52 +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > I would certainly reiterate this: > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14003253 > > Some versions of Ubuntu (at least trusty, xenial) have the added > "feature" to keep older kernel versions when installing new ones.  It > kind of

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

I would certainly reiterate this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14003253 Some versions of Ubuntu (at least trusty, xenial) have the added "feature" to keep older kernel versions when installing new ones. It kind of makes sense to keep at least the previous one (in case of a regression),

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Russell Stuart wrote: > Anyway, this discussion prompted me to get off my bum and look at why > unattended-upgrades wasn't working. Turns out the default install has > "label=Debian-Security", and all these laptops are running testing. I > guess the assumption

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Apr 08 2017, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> - Airplane-mode Hotkey (especially hard apparently) >> - Volume Hotkeys >> - Brightness Hotkeys >> - Suspend/hibernate hotkeys > > These are all implemented by ACPI on modern hardware. You need to have > something that turns the ACPI

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Thu, 2017-04-06 at 16:07 -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > > FWIW it's been a long time since I had any problems in this regard, > > and I'm surprised it's still an issue among knowledgeable people by > > 2017! > > Maybe I'm just exceedingly unlucky, but I have yet to find a laptop > where all of

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 04:07:54PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > On Apr 06 2017, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Nikolaus Rath dijo [Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:18:57PM -0700]: > >> >> I have a very different perception > >> > > >> > Me too. I guess it depends very much on whether one can

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Recently bought the newest Dell inspiron. Everything works out of the box. Didn't play much with HDMI. Know fo sure that video works. With recent kernel update (Debian testing) even screen rotation works. I am personally very happy. -Pavlo Solntsev On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Florian Lohoff

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 04:07:54PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Maybe I'm just exceedingly unlucky, but I have yet to find a laptop > where all of the following works: > > - Suspend > - Hibernate > - Airplane-mode Hotkey (especially hard apparently) > - Volume Hotkeys > - Brightness Hotkeys > -

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Le 06/04/2017 à 21:08, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : > Nikolaus Rath dijo [Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:18:57PM -0700]: >> I think there's a pre-requisite that's much harder for a lot of people: >> finding out what laptop works well with Linux. This is the stage where I >> have repeatedly failed - the

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On 14635 March 1977, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Maybe I'm just exceedingly unlucky, but I have yet to find a laptop > where all of the following works: > - Suspend > - Hibernate > - Airplane-mode Hotkey (especially hard apparently) > - Volume Hotkeys > - Brightness Hotkeys > - Suspend/hibernate

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Thu, 2017-04-06 at 09:22 +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > Anyway, this discussion prompted me to get off my bum and look at why > unattended-upgrades wasn't working.  Turns out the default install > has "label=Debian-Security", and all these laptops are running > testing.  I guess the assumption

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Chris Lamb wrote: > There's a very active conversation happening on Hacker News right > now entitled «What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?»: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821 There is a followup and some analysis of the thread here:

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Hi, On 07.04.2017 01:58, Michael Biebl wrote: >> - Suspend >> - Hibernate >> - Airplane-mode Hotkey (especially hard apparently) >> - Volume Hotkeys >> - Brightness Hotkeys >> - Suspend/hibernate hotkeys >> - Hot-plug of external monitor > All of the above works flawlessly on my Thinkpad X220

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Am 07.04.2017 um 01:07 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: > Maybe I'm just exceedingly unlucky, but I have yet to find a laptop > where all of the following works: > > - Suspend > - Hibernate > - Airplane-mode Hotkey (especially hard apparently) > - Volume Hotkeys > - Brightness Hotkeys > - Suspend/hibernate

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Apr 06 2017, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Nikolaus Rath dijo [Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:18:57PM -0700]: >> >> I have a very different perception >> > >> > Me too. I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to buy >> > a good laptop which works well with Linux. >> >> I

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Nikolaus Rath dijo [Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:18:57PM -0700]: > >> I have a very different perception > > > > Me too. I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to buy > > a good laptop which works well with Linux. > > I think there's a pre-requisite that's much harder for a lot of

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, 2017-04-05 at 12:38 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Me too.  I guess it depends very much on whether one can afford to > buy a good laptop which works well with Linux. Not in this case. My laptop concerned is an Dell XPS 9550. It wasn't cheap and in the 12 months of ownership I'd describe

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Apr 05 2017, Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > Florian Lohoff writes ("Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu > 17.10?""): >> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 02:56:04PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: >> > As far as I can tel

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Florian Lohoff writes ("Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?""): > On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 02:56:04PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > > As far as I can tell, for laptop's rebooting is a non-issue mainly > > because suspend is not rel

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Apr 05, gregor herrmann wrote: > > Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after > > suspend, and when this happen I can only reboot it because it will keep > > waking up again after every attempt at suspending. > The last time I had this issue, `echo

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, 05 Apr 2017 08:54:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 05, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > I don't trust Linux enough to put my laptop into the bag not checking that > > it is indeed suspended. > Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after >

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Apr 05, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > I don't trust Linux enough to put my laptop into the bag not checking that > it is indeed suspended. Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after suspend, and when this happen I can only reboot it because it will keep

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 08:34:44AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > as by that point you've already closed the laptop and are putting it > into your bag I don't trust Linux enough to put my laptop into the bag not checking that it is indeed suspended. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 02:56:04PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > As far as I can tell, for laptop's rebooting is a non-issue mainly > because suspend is not reliable enough to use safely [0] - so they are > rebooted every day. Ergo just fixing bug #744753 would be the cure if > it is indeed the

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 02:56:04PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > As far as I can tell, for laptop's rebooting is a non-issue mainly > because suspend is not reliable enough to use safely [0] - so they are > rebooted every day. Ergo just fixing bug #744753 would be the cure if > it is indeed

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, 2017-04-05 at 11:18 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Not AFAIK. I would guess that needrestart would need to be promoted > to standard priority and needrestart-session would need to be added > to tasksel's task-desktop package, or to each of the task-*-desktop > packages; this adds wxWidgets to

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Do you know if anyone is working on including this in the default > desktop install? If it works well, it seems like an uncontroversial > inclusion that does not depend on the debate over unattended-upgrades. > I don't know which package

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Hello Paul, On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 08:10:44AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > > > Fixing #744753 would ensure systems got the updates. > > The only issue then is restarting the applications. > > needrestart and needrestart-session handles that.

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On 03.04.2017 07:52, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 3 avril 2017 10:10 +1000, Russell Stuart : > >> The first is better HDPI handling. This will require Wayland as X11 >> simply can't handle connecting to monitors with wildly different DPI >> settings. > > The current

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On 2017-04-03.06:52, Vincent Bernat wrote: > While XSETTINGS can handle several screens, GTK only tracks one settings > window and doesn't handle applications switching from one screen to > another. According to this interesting post[0] in response to the original Hacker News thread, per-screen

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Fixing #744753 would ensure systems got the updates. > The only issue then is restarting the applications. needrestart and needrestart-session handles that. There are also many other implementations but needrestart seems to be the most

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 10:10:00AM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > The third one that got my attention is security updates that can be > trusted to work on a standard desktop install.  Where we take the > approach that creating our own security patches is just too hard, this > means stable must

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Mon, 2017-04-03 at 15:35 +1000, Brian May wrote: > On 2017-04-03 10:10, Russell Stuart wrote: > > The first is better HDPI handling.  This will require Wayland ... > >   >   > Did I miss something? I thought Ubuntu was doing their own thing and > not using Wayland. >   >

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On 2017-04-03 10:10, Russell Stuart wrote: > The first is better HDPI handling. This will require Wayland ... Did I miss something? I thought Ubuntu was doing their own thing and not using Wayland. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

❦ 3 avril 2017 10:10 +1000, Russell Stuart  : > The first is better HDPI handling. This will require Wayland as X11 > simply can't handle connecting to monitors with wildly different DPI > settings. The current limitation is in the toolkits. X11 is quite able to

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

On Fri, 2017-03-31 at 21:48 +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > There's a very active conversation happening on Hacker News right > now entitled «What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?»: > >   https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821 > > I haven't read every comment yet, but are there any feature

Re: "Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Chris Lamb: > Hi -devel, > > There's a very active conversation happening on Hacker News right > now entitled «What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?»: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821 > > I haven't read every comment yet, but are there any feature requests > that seem

"Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?"

Hi -devel, There's a very active conversation happening on Hacker News right now entitled «What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?»: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821 I haven't read every comment yet, but are there any feature requests that seem particularly relevant to us? (As