Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-06-01 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 07:07:04AM -0400, Michael Lazin wrote: > I realize it is work but it would be good if apt had an option for https. It does. > You can still update with FTP mirrors. Wouldn't it be a good idea to allow > using https and keep http as a fall back for those who need an http

Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-06-01 Thread Michael Lazin
I realize it is work but it would be good if apt had an option for https. You can still update with FTP mirrors. Wouldn't it be a good idea to allow using https and keep http as a fall back for those who need an http mirror? Thank you, Michael Lazin .. τὸ γὰρ αὐτὸ νοεῖν ἐστίν τε καὶ εἶναι.

Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-06-01 Thread James Addison
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023, 02:08 Simon Richter wrote: > > The reason for the change is that it reduces user confusion. Users are > learning that unencrypted HTTP has neither integrity nor > confidentiality, and that they should actively check that web sites use > HTTPS, so we have gotten several

Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-05-31 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, - when you use switches, the local network segment has no other nodes - if there were other nodes, they would likely miss some packets in the conversation, which means they cannot generate checksums - there is no software that can perform this inspection Yep, there are

Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-05-31 Thread James Addison
Hi Simon - thanks for the response. Please find my reply inline below: On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 11:07, Simon Richter wrote: > > On 5/31/23 05:42, James Addison wrote: > > >* It allows other devices on the local network segment to inspect the > > content that other nodes are sending and

Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-05-31 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 5/31/23 05:42, James Addison wrote: * It allows other devices on the local network segment to inspect the content that other nodes are sending and receiving. That is very theoretical: - when you use switches, the local network segment has no other nodes - if there were

Re: [2016] client-side signature checking of Debian archives (Re: When should we https our mirrors?)

2023-05-30 Thread James Addison
In follow-up to: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/10/msg00592.html As an update here: the default recommendation in the Debian release notes now recommends[1] HTTPS instead of HTTPS by default. Despite the validity of many of the theoretical concerns about APT over HTTP, I reckon that