Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-18 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Adeodato Simó [Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:25:10 +0100]: * Raphael Geissert [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:32:51 -0600]: Removing GNOME from testing because something depends on libfrufru1 isn't a win for testing's usability. It would only last until it is able to migrate without breaking anything. I

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Richard Atterer [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:34:17 +0100]: At the very least, there should be an auto-generated web page listing packages in testing that are currently unreleasable! http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00836.html -- - Are you sure we're good? - Always. -- Rory

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Raphael Geissert [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:32:51 -0600]: Removing GNOME from testing because something depends on libfrufru1 isn't a win for testing's usability. It would only last until it is able to migrate without breaking anything. I think this is just a matter of deciding which way is

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with packages in testing that do not belong to any

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Steve Langasek [Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:55:50 -0700]: Hello, Steve. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with packages in testing

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old behavoir late in release would probably be good.] Adeodato's proposal makes a lot of sense,

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old behavoir late in release would probably be good.] In practice, the

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17:28PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: As said above, failures to build against the new library are RC from day 0, and the intention is not to do transitions while those are open, other constraints permitting. Cool. As for packages that are rebuilt in unstable but not migrated, I don’t

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17:28PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: Wouldn't it be better to remove the packages from testing? this way if the library and other packages are ready to go they could easily migrate without any special hack, if my understanding of the

A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-15 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hello, this mail is to talk a bit about the current situation regarding transitions in unstable. In my opinion, it is unfortunate that the Release Team has had to insist on semi-serializing them, because that’s not the kind of development you want to have in unstable right after a release.

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with packages in testing that do not belong to any source in testing, which is bad. Will there