Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 09:50:23AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: debootstrap: uses ftp.debian.org as default mirror. debconf questions aside, I think ftp.debian.org is a much saner *default* than ftp.jp.debian.org. I've always wondered where the later silly default came from. =)

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:48:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Well, at least it was different... ftp.debian.org is an even more horrible default, because that's burdering one single machine maxing out its FE card, where we have a network of 300 mirrors out there that are mostly happy to share

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:25:21AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: Well, at least it was different... ftp.debian.org is an even more horrible default, because that's burdering one single machine maxing out its FE card, where we have a network of 300 mirrors out there that are

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:53:18 +0100 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 12:25:50AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So I'd like to have

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 19:49 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2007 19:43, Joey Hess wrote: d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from when building installation media: Note that this can result in multiple sources. If you want only one, this hack would

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't want to ask via debconf, since users should have already answered the question

Re: [Pbuilder-maint] A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from when building installation media: grep '^deb[ \t]' $(SYSTEM_SOURCES_LIST) \ |grep -v '^deb[ \t]cdrom:' \ |grep -v

A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't want to ask via debconf, since users should have already answered the question at

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 27 May 2007 09:25:50 Junichi Uekawa wrote: After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't want to ask via debconf, since users

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 09:50:23 -0600 Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2007 09:25:50 Junichi Uekawa wrote: After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So I'd like to have some

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2007-05-28 at 00:25 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: piuparts: Looks at first 'deb' line from /etc/apt/sources.list - Can't handle /etc/apt/sources.list.d - Assumes that the top entry is the best I didn't want to have piuparts use all sources.list

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, debootstrap: uses ftp.debian.org as default mirror. debconf questions aside, I think ftp.debian.org is a much saner *default* than ftp.jp.debian.org. I've always wondered where the later silly default came from. =) Good Trivia question. The reasons for using ftp.jp.debian.org

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:22:26 +0300 Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emdebian-tools: Using 'apt-cache policy' to obtain information - told on IRC that it loses port number info. - probably picks up security mirrors too, which can't

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Hess
Junichi Uekawa wrote: Looking for prior art I found the following: d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from when building installation media: grep '^deb[ \t]' $(SYSTEM_SOURCES_LIST) \ |grep -v '^deb[ \t]cdrom:' \

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 27 May 2007 19:43, Joey Hess wrote: d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from when building installation media: Note that this can result in multiple sources. If you want only one, this hack would need to be refined. Cheers, FJP pgpKGmesG3WSG.pgp

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2007-05-27 at 18:05 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: That would be very handy! The default could then be the closest/quickest primary mirror. It would be important (from my perspective) that this default is required to be a primary mirror - maybe offer the user only the list of primaries and

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:01:19 +0300 Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On su, 2007-05-27 at 18:05 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: That would be very handy! The default could then be the closest/quickest primary mirror. It would be important (from my perspective) that this default is

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2007-05-27 at 20:06 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: Unless your own mirror supports all Debian architectures, you will still need a primary for emdebian-tools. Do you test build your own Debian packages against your own mirror? Is that wise? I don't use emdebian in any way, so any

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 12:25:50AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't want to ask via debconf,