Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:32PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: For the moment the way to install Blends is to use the plain Debian installer and afterwards install a bunch of metapackages. Ah, and that's what you want to change now. That sounds like a very good idea. :-) The

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas Tille (2014-10-16 08:47:19) On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:32PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: On occasion, I've needed a single-use system; something that boots up into an application and that shuts down when that application exits. (Having the full power of Debian in the

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hello, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:47:19AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Would this use case also be a reason for creating a personal blend? Or even an official one? Jonas has answered this question. I'd like to add that I'm no fan of personal things since you spoil the idea of forming a

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:27:37PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: Ok. Is it supposed to be possible to install more than one blend simultaneously? Is that technically prevented with Conflicts? Not at all. I have not tested but I would bet that you can install all existing metapackages of

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I admit I expected *you* to know about Blends for a while - but considering the video recorded quote I think I was not wrong using this chance to point this

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:29:47PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Well, Blends and the desktop situation could be considered orthogonal. Do all blends work well with all desktop environments? No. While this no means: There exist 1 or 2 Blends focussing on a specific desktop

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:25:20AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: While this no means: There exist 1 or 2 Blends focussing on a specific desktop environment (as far as I know Debian Edu and Ezgo) but Debian Edu offers you

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hi, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:31:36AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: You belong to a majority if I might conclude from my experience. I have no idea whether I should feel responsible for this but I'm fighting on several fronts like the extensive documentation[1] and countless talks[2] as well

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bas Wijnen (2014-10-15 19:49:32) On occasion, I've needed a single-use system; something that boots up into an application and that shuts down when that application exits. (Having the full power of Debian in the background is a nice feature, but mostly unused.) For example, for

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:02:11AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi Andreas, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu (2014-10-08): On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:11:24PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second beta release of the

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi again Andreas, Andreas Tille ti...@debian.org (2014-10-14): On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:02:11AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: well to be honest the whole blend story came as a surprise. Ahhh, this in turn is surprising for me since the first version of this bug is dated 24 Mar 2003

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:14:53AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: In other words: I perfectly know the fact that Blends are widely ignored even amongst Debian developers and that's not about you / the debian-boot team - perhaps my running around and tell people is just not

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I admit I expected *you* to know about Blends for a while - but considering the video recorded quote I think I was not wrong using this chance to point this out for other readers of this mail as it is really a fact that I always

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bas Wijnen (2014-10-14 19:19:36) I have heard about [Blends] for quite a while, indeed, but I must say that I never entirely understood what they are. I'm guessing I'm not alone in this. So let me write what I think they are, and then you can correct me. I've read the explanation

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Andreas, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu (2014-10-08): On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:11:24PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second beta release of the installer for Debian 8 Jessie. ... thanks for your report and your continuous

Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Cyril, On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:11:24PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second beta release of the installer for Debian 8 Jessie. ... thanks for your report and your continuous work on the installer. I wonder what might be the