On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:21:12PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
The maintainer is held responsible
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines,
(and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build machine
is no excuse.
I can't speak for the other guys, but I have a Pegasos machine
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:58:17AM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines,
(and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build
machine
is no
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly
running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent
that email, while i had offered to continue running it until a proper
replacement
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:26:38PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly
running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent
that email, while
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:00:16AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Seriously, in what did this mail help ? Do you feel better now ? Was it in any
way constructive ? In what do you believe you are better than me over this ?
Apply these same two lines to all of *your* posts to this thread (in the past
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped
down
from reminding me of
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote:
1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build
since april 1, which means they don't include the broadcom tg3 module
at all, and are thus not really usable
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote:
1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build
since april 1, which means they don't include the broadcom
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:30:17PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
I'd rather prefer if you don't overexegerate.
Yes, please restrict yourself to the levels of exaggeration which are
appropriate for Debian mailing lists. ;-)
SCNR,
Richard
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On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:30:17PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Oh fun, i don't have any commit access to the d-i repo anymore, so i can't
even fix this issue myself. This clearly shows the pettiness of the d-i
team,
i am disgusted. ...
Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote:
1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means that the debian support for
powerpc is dead or almost so, and i strongly
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:59:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means that the
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no,
the d-i team decided this otherwise.
You can't *commit*, but you still can send patches, can't you ?
Mike
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Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, best that could happen now would be if someone just takes up
the loose ends, and tries to fix the issues - and I hope someone just
does.
Yeah, problem is we where already there a month ago, and see what happened.
I was going to fix it, maybe
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 14:38]:
I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
I would have expected the maintainer or others privy to the situation
to have
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 14:38]:
I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
I would have
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Because they kicked out the powerpc porter ? Do you not think this is reason
enough to consider debian for powerpc dead
No, this is only reason enough to look for a new powerpc porter.
Michael
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On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:40:08PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, best that could happen now would be if someone just takes up
the loose ends, and tries to fix the issues - and I hope someone just
does.
Yeah, problem is we where already
Sven,
When will you learn you don't have to reply to every single message in a
thread ? Frank's and my message were the exact same. Why do you feel you
have to answer twice to the same thing ?
And please stop this Friendly signature, it's pathetic and actually
sounds stupid.
Mike
On Thu, Apr
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Because they kicked out the powerpc porter ? Do you not think this is reason
enough to consider debian for powerpc dead
No, this is only reason enough to look for a
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no,
the d-i team decided this otherwise.
You can't *commit*, but you still can
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:07:36PM +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no,
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
I would have expected to see some mention of it on the list so people who
don't stay on IRC (and people who are only interested in the ppc
architecture)
would know what was going on.
I never doubted that. :)
I don't think you
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:17:08PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:07:36PM +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken from
me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/03/msg01075.html sounds like
you stepped back, and
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken from
me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ?
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
from
me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ?
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
from
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:32:42PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
wrote:
Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access?
None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
happened here is that one such project admin did let some petty personal
On 4/27/06, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
wrote:
Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access?
None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
happened here is that one
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:
I stepped back from d-i powerpc port maintainer, not as d-i
contributor.
So there apparently was a misunderstanding.
[...]
who was kicked out you mean ?
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote:
I stepped back from d-i powerpc port maintainer, not as d-i
contributor.
So
Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote:
I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
All of us who read http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/build-logs.html
on a daily basis knew that the powerpc
(dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed)
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote:
None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
happened here is that one such project admin did let some petty
personal considerations overstep his
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
(dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed)
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote:
None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what
happened here is that one such project
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:10:08PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
(dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed)
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote:
None, it is the full decision of the project
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:36:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote:
I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about
anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it.
All of us who read
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
from
me, and why i find out only now as i was going
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:54]:
On 4/27/06, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford
[Contr] wrote:
Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access?
None, it is the full decision of the
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 18:38]:
c) The mipsel builds had been down nearly as long. And that machine
seems to be dead. Argh.
Would you need access to another mipsel machine?
Cheers,
Andi
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On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:47:33PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access
On Thursday 27 April 2006 08:19, Mike Hommey wrote:
When will you learn you don't have to reply to every single message in a
thread ? Frank's and my message were the exact same. Why do you feel you
have to answer twice to the same thing ?
And please stop this Friendly signature, it's pathetic
This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said:
you kicked me out [...]
just to get ride of me [...]
it was more important to get ride of sven [...]
that you kicked the powerpc maintainer out of the project [...]
uther contempt for all the work i did do in the past for this [...]
you expulsed
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped down
from reminding me of this in the past) of the build failure, while a
contributor is free commit fixes, without necessarily being the one to blame
for every
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped
down
from reminding me of this in the past) of the build failure, while a
contributor is
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:44:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, it is what i see. There is nothing to clarify on this
point. They removed me to get ride of me, and despite Colin's help,
they don't really have someone to
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:49, Stephen Gran wrote:
Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I think I'll just eat worms.
Lighten up, dude. Better yet, find professional help.
From the outside it seems to me that his complaints are with merit. And this
is a meritocracy; not a democracy.
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:49:08PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said:
you kicked me out [...]
just to get ride of me [...]
it was more important to get ride of sven [...]
that you kicked the powerpc maintainer out of the project [...]
uther
This one time, at band camp, Jason D. Clinton said:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:49, Stephen Gran wrote:
Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I think I'll just eat worms.
Lighten up, dude. Better yet, find professional help.
From the outside it seems to me that his complaints are with
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, it is what i see. There is nothing to clarify on this
point. They removed me to get ride of me, and despite Colin's help,
they don't really have someone to make the real work.
So Colin's help isn't real, or what?
Please don't
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