Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-06 Thread Andrew Kelley
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Kelley superjo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: If it makes sense to bundle multiple libraries in the same package which other packages may depend on then go for it. I understand. Here is an example

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew Kelley
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Frederic Peters fpet...@debian.org wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: I've seen ITPs for a massive set of tiny-looking node libraries go past on -devel in the last few months, so I thought it was about time I looked at one. I'm a bit worried by what I've seen,

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 05, Andrew Kelley superjo...@gmail.com wrote: What do you expect me to do? It would be very easy to just bundle all node_modules with the package but that is against Debian guidelines. Each dependency must track upstream. So that's exactly what we're doing and we're getting flak for

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew Kelley
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: If it makes sense to bundle multiple libraries in the same package which other packages may depend on then go for it. I understand. Here is an example of doing exactly this:

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com : And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of being inlined wherever they're needed? Because, in node, a library is cheap and the

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:26:38 +0200 Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org wrote: ❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com : And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of being

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:26:38 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: ❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com : And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of being inlined

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 juillet 2014 11:34 +0200, Jeroen Dekkers jer...@dekkers.ch : And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of being inlined wherever they're needed? Because, in node, a library is cheap and

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 juillet 2014 08:50 +0100, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org : And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of being inlined wherever they're needed? Because, in node, a library is cheap

Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Leo Iannacone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leo Iannacone l...@ubuntu.com X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-ms Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Guillermo Rauch rau...@gmail.com * URL : https://github.com/guille/ms.js * License :

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
l...@ubuntu.com wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leo Iannacone l...@ubuntu.com X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-ms Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Guillermo Rauch rau...@gmail.com * URL : https://github.com/guille/ms.js *

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Leo Iannacone
On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: l...@ubuntu.com wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leo Iannacone l...@ubuntu.com X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-ms Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Guillermo Rauch

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Frederic Peters
Steve McIntyre wrote: I've seen ITPs for a massive set of tiny-looking node libraries go past on -devel in the last few months, so I thought it was about time I looked at one. I'm a bit worried by what I've seen, considering typical discussions in the past about really small packages.

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: tack:~/debian/ms.js$ wc -l index.js 111 index.js Am I missing something, or is the working code in this package really just 111 lines? Why isn't this bundled up into

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le samedi 12 juillet 2014 à 12:03 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit : On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: tack:~/debian/ms.js$ wc -l index.js 111 index.js Am I missing something, or is the working code

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: l...@ubuntu.com wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leo Iannacone l...@ubuntu.com X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name:

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Leo Iannacone
On 12 July 2014 15:15, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: l...@ubuntu.com wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leo Iannacone l...@ubuntu.com

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes: Right. Did you discuss that with ftpmaster or anybody else outside of the javascript team? There's typically been a consensus against very small packages containing just a single script or piece of code so small that the packaging metadata is going to

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Frederic Peters fpet...@debian.org writes: Indeed, I also recently looked at some, but didn't speak about it; just like we have LaTeX packages including a serie of CTAN packages, I believe it would make sense to have the same sort of thing for node.js modules. The CTAN case is a little bit

Bootstrapping also increases the package count (was: Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility)

2014-07-12 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-07-12 19:19:16) I'd really like to see us solve this problem by figuring out a better metadata distribution system (and IIRC some progress was made on that front recently) than in making life more difficult for packagers. which progress is that? With

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:12:17 +0200 Leo Iannacone l...@ubuntu.com wrote: Am I missing something, or is the working code in this package really just 111 lines? Why isn't this bundled up into something more reasonable in size for the packaging system? No, you're right. It is really

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
l...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 12 July 2014 15:15, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: But, after discussing this in JavaScript team we ended up that it is better have separated packages, instead of having a big nodejs-common (or

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
kapo...@melix.org wrote: Le samedi 12 juillet 2014 à 12:03 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit : Right. Did you discuss that with ftpmaster or anybody else outside of the javascript team? There's typically been a consensus against very small packages containing just a single script or piece of