Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-11 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Paul Seelig wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:29:37AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: RMS should IMHO publically apologize with the KDE people for this condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be So now _you_ are telling

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-10 Thread Raul Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Stallman) writes: Meanwhile, you don't seem to be concerned about the mob of people who are attacking me. On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 06:06:53PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: I may now be even more concerned that you seem to consider the authors of free KDE software a

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-10 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:20:01PM -0600, Richard Stallman wrote: I think you ought to apologize, for supporting this mob. I have no reason to apologize for being its victim. I, on behalf of everyone involved in the GPL KDE fiasco, humbly apologize to everyone else for the actions, comitted by

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-09 Thread Richard Stallman
You are picking at little details of my words, reading into them a hostility which is not there. Meanwhile, you don't seem to be concerned about the mob of people who are attacking me. To me that says injustice and double standard. Injustice, because you blame me for meanings that others

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 01:19:06PM -0300, Ben Woodhead wrote: First I would like to give my appologies, I was not aware of the incomming directory and I have been told that kde will be included. I would also like to say that I personally do not use kde nor am a developer for them, my consern

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: Fortunately, my part of it is done - KDE is being uploaded to Debian now to join Qt in main. Unfortunately, not by any action of KDE. Troll Tech made the decision. KDE and Debian both benefit. I can speak for a sizable portion of

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: Richard's comment was apparently on the order of It's about time, which apparently managed to peeve the KDE people who felt they needed to flame him publicly over it.. *sigh* It was not the harmless about time part those people

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:01:37AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:52:04PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: Richard's comment was apparently on the order of It's about time, which apparently managed to peeve the KDE people who felt they needed to flame him publicly over

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: about. They IMHO righfully complained about RMS' forgiving talk which is more like religious speech from a church or something. If the catholic pope would utter such words it could be silently ignored, though it would be appropriate speech in his

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:29:37AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: RMS should IMHO publically apologize with the KDE people for this condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be So now _you_ are telling someone to ask for

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 08:24:30PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: [ just more of the same ] because of the long and bitter public debates, RMS had to say something and he had to make a public statement that it was now OK for KDE to use any FSF owned code. if he had just ignored the fact that the

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:01:37AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: Richard's comment was apparently on the order of It's about time, which apparently managed to peeve the KDE people who felt they needed to flame him publicly over it.. *sigh* It was not the harmless about time part those

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:56:06AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: Without being a KDE/Qt user myself, this is what makes me understand the anger of the KDE developers. The problem with that is that the KDE developers have chosen to assume that because Richard has been an ass to them (and quite

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But RMS speaking like *this* is rather unappropriate and IMHO quite insulting. I wonder if the author of ncftp who was hurting the GPL by using readline and who subsequently put ncftp under GPL as consequence of complaints was asked to beg for being

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-08 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:14 AM 9/8/00 -0400, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But RMS speaking like *this* is rather unappropriate and IMHO quite insulting. I wonder if the author of ncftp who was hurting the GPL by using readline and who subsequently put ncftp under GPL as

Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-07 Thread Ben Woodhead
Hello everybody First I would like to give my appologies, I was not aware of the incomming directory and I have been told that kde will be included. I would also like to say that I personally do not use kde nor am a developer for them, my consern was with the conflicts between linux. Competition