Re: Hyper-V support on Debian (Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

In progress! :) Thanks, --jrp On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:57:48 -0700 > "Joshua R. Poulson" wrote: > > I will certainly update that page when the time comes. We're looking > > forward to it. > > Yeah, now

Hyper-V support on Debian (Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:57:48 -0700 "Joshua R. Poulson" wrote: > I will certainly update that page when the time comes. We're looking > forward to it. Yeah, now Debian8.3 includes hyperv-daemons package :) Please look into it. -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 18:45:57 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > On Fri Dec 04, 2015 at 16:27:17 +0800, Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) wrote: > >My friend from Microsoft shared > >[1]https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-o > >n-azure/ to me. > >Maybe the

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

My friend from Microsoft shared https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-on-azure/ to me. Maybe the problem is fixed now. $4 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm struggling to convince a client of mine to

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:41 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > So naturally my client is concerned that by choosing Debian they > won't have > benefits of SLA like they would have if they choose Ubuntu because > the latter > is "endorsed". > > I'm not sure what can be done about this. Personally

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Hi, On Fri Dec 04, 2015 at 16:27:17 +0800, Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) wrote: >My friend from Microsoft shared >[1]https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-o >n-azure/ to me. >Maybe the problem is fixed now. Yes, we released the first version of the

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 21:53 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 21:34 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:45 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > > > > Ben

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Adam D. > Barratt wrote: > I assumed that there would have been a discussion - if only > because > adding a binary package to stable is a reasonably

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > I assumed that there would have been a discussion - if only because > adding a binary package to stable is a reasonably exceptional > circumstance - but couldn't find one. Why would there be a binary-only

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Sorry, I assume you meant binary-only in context. It was certainly not our intent to ask for something like that. Sorry again, --jrp On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 12:43 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 13:09 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: > Sorry, I assume you meant binary-only in context. It was certainly not > our intent to ask for something like that. Ah. I'm assuming that there's been a confusion of terminology here. A binary package in this context is a package that

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > It would be built from the linux-tools source package.  We could > > cherry-pick more recent changes in tools/hv/ if necessary. > >  Please! :) I've

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:45 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > It would be built from the linux-tools source package. We could > > > cherry-pick more

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 21:34 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 20:45 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 12:35 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 > > > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > It would be built from

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:54:51 +0100 Ben Hutchings wrote: > It would be built from the linux-tools source package.  We could > cherry-pick more recent changes in tools/hv/ if necessary. Please! :) -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/org

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

* Hideki Yamane: > So I thinks we should care such situations, and try to improve it > by adding hyperv-daemons package to stable (it means for production > system). Sure. The first step is to determine if we want to build this from the kernel source package (as a new binary package), or if

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sat, 2015-10-17 at 13:43 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Hideki Yamane: > > >  So I thinks we should care such situations, and try to improve it > >  by adding hyperv-daemons package to stable (it means for > > production > >  system). > > Sure.  The first step is to determine if we want to

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Hi, On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:58:24 +0200 Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I glad to hear hyperv-daemons package would be backported to Jessie :) > > And what is needed to do so? Of course, I would help if I can. > > I don't know that it will, but if it's critical enough for

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > If we can add it to stable, then I'll ask microsoft to update their > documents > https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn614985.aspx I will certainly update that page when the time comes. We're looking

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On 08/16/2015 01:22 PM, Michael Meskes wrote: Interesting, thanks. As for The Microsoft Azure Linux Agent [1], it is Apache-2.0 licensed and should be trivially package-able... [1]: https://github.com/Azure/WALinuxAgent It's been in Debian for years. Recently it was updated to the latest

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 21:49 +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:43:17 +0200 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if they are that important.

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On 2015-08-16 04:45:46, Joshua R. Poulson wrote: Specifically, due to the efforts of Credativ, Debian will soon become an endorsed distribution available from the image gallery on Azure. There will be a DebConf 15 QA tomorrow on this topic. You can also chat us up at DebConf this week. Hi

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Dmitry Smirnov dijo [Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:41:40PM +1000]: Hi everyone, I'm struggling to convince a client of mine to use Debian. They already had enough troubles with RHEL/CentOS to they are open to the idea -- that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they want to use Microsoft Azure

RE: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Hello, Dmitry Smirnov dijo [Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:41:40PM +1000]: I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting conditions on Azure. I'm not talking about availability of OS images.

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Maybe someone could draft a press release to draw attention to the problem, if we should be concerned? Or maybe we should just wait a little bit longer until the problem is fixed. As it happens work is already underway as you can see here:

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Hi, On Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:35:37 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: Maybe someone could draft a press release to draw attention to the problem, if we should be concerned? Or maybe we should just wait a little bit longer until the problem is fixed. As it happens work is already underway as

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:41 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: [...] I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting conditions on Azure. I'm not talking about availability of OS images.

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Aug 16, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: This is sadly very typical of any sort of vendor support. I see this all the time for complex software stacks with support contracts (you can only ask them for support if you run it all on some OS that they support) or for anything that requires

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

I hope Debian have some future on Azure however blog mention only native Debian images (that shouldn't be too hard to prepare anyway) but not SLA... I'm pretty sure there'll be some SLA offering. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org)

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Specifically, due to the efforts of Credativ, Debian will soon become an endorsed distribution available from the image gallery on Azure. There will be a DebConf 15 QA tomorrow on this topic. You can also chat us up at DebConf this week. --jrp Linux Integration Services Program Manager, Open

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, at 05:43, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 13:41 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: [...] I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting conditions on Azure.

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sunday 16 August 2015 09:35:37 Michael Meskes wrote: Or maybe we should just wait a little bit longer until the problem is fixed. As it happens work is already underway as you can see here: http://www.credativ.de/blog/debian-images-f%C3%BCr-microsoft-azure I hope Debian have some future on

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sunday 16 August 2015 10:43:17 Ben Hutchings wrote: No stable release of Debian includes the Hyper-V guest agents, which I believe are strongly recommended. They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Saturday 15 August 2015 21:52:19 Russ Allbery wrote: It's possible, I suppose, that money has changed hands to get Microsoft to endorse Ubuntu, but I think it's equally likely that they just looked at the enterprise Linux space to see what the most popular distributions commercial are, and

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Interesting, thanks. As for The Microsoft Azure Linux Agent [1], it is Apache-2.0 licensed and should be trivially package-able... [1]: https://github.com/Azure/WALinuxAgent It's been in Debian for years. Recently it was updated to the latest version. Please check

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sunday 16 August 2015 04:45:46 Joshua R. Poulson wrote: Specifically, due to the efforts of Credativ, Debian will soon become an endorsed distribution available from the image gallery on Azure. This will be a good news. I'm looking forward to see it happen. Thank you, Joshua. -- Regards,

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Hi, On Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 11:18:55 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, On Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:35:37 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: Maybe someone could draft a press release to draw attention to the problem, if we should be concerned? Or maybe we should just wait a little

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:43:17 +0200 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if they are that important. However, I think some more work is needed to integrate them

Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Hi everyone, I'm struggling to convince a client of mine to use Debian. They already had enough troubles with RHEL/CentOS to they are open to the idea -- that's a good thing. The bad thing is that they want to use Microsoft Azure (please don't ask me why people in the right mind would ever

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org writes: I found it very disappointing that I had to defend Debian against Ubuntu which is stealing our audience by somehow arranging more favourable hosting conditions on Azure. I'm not talking about availability of OS images. According to Information for