On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Eduard Bloch wrote:
#include hallo.h
make hallo
Huch, apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded and you have fixed fonts
with latin15 charset. And visit:
http://channel.debian.de/faq/DebianDE-21.html
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-euro-support/
Vielen Dank für
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 08:45:51PM +0100, Manfred Wassmann wrote:
Huch, apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded and you have fixed fonts
with latin15 charset. And visit:
http://channel.debian.de/faq/DebianDE-21.html
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-euro-support/
Vielen Dank
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:14:46PM +0200, Ari Makela wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?)
but it's essential with European
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 09:29:34PM +0200, Juha Jäykkä wrote:
But is doesn't have an AltGr key...
I would say, AltGr is which ever key functions as Mode_switch. AltGr
just something printed on the key functioning as Mode_switch on some
keyboards. For example, I have CapsLock functioning as
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 01:55:10PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
Actually, I don't think I've ever seen AltGr printed on a key, yet all the
keyboards in .hr have the right alt doing that.
It's standard on UK keyboards.
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On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 01:55:10PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
Actually, I don't think I've ever seen AltGr printed on a key, yet all the
keyboards in .hr have the right alt doing that.
The Gr stands afaik for Alternative Graphics. It is found mainly in
Europe if the keyboards does not follow the
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Herbert Xu wrote:
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for
in the unix world until it's mandadted by some dead-tree standard for which
you have to pay a few hundred bucks.
You can now get POSIX online
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Branden Robinson wrote:
Well, that need not be the case here. All we need is a gizmo that
generates console keymaps from XKB description files, and then loads
them.
That would be cool, and if I knew anything at all about either of the
maps, I'd be
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for
in the unix world until it's mandadted by some dead-tree standard for which
you have to pay a few hundred bucks.
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Hi Andreas!
You wrote:
When I use a iso8859-15 font in xterm, the euro will display
correctly, but I can't enter it on the commandline, it only
beeps. However, when I use 'read' and then enter AltGr-e, it works ok.
However if I set LANG or LC_CTYPE to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' it no longer beeps,
Bas Zoetekouw (2002-01-04 14:17:07 +0100) :
Hi Andreas!
You wrote:
[...]
Also an emacs started with that env setting doesn't do anything on
AltGr-e (without that setting, everything's OK: , see ;-)).
Well, I get a little square here, but that's probably my own settings.
Nope. I get it
The Euro is on the `4' of my keyboard, I think it should display a Euro
when
used with the `Alt gr' modifier. Most UK keyboards that have been made in
the last few years have a Euro symbol in the same place.
My Microsoft Natural keyboard has the Euro symbol placed on the '5' of my
keyboard,
My Microsoft Natural keyboard has the Euro symbol placed on the '5' of my
keyboard, and this is a US version of the keyboard (at least that's what I
ordered, and it has a '$' symbol)... But is doesn't have an AltGr key...
I would say, AltGr is which ever key functions as Mode_switch. AltGr
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: Shift4)
All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still
the ¤-symbol (currency).
Excuse my ignorance but I
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: Shift4)
All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e.
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 23:08, Mikael Hedin wrote:
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: Shift4)
All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still
the ¤-symbol (currency).
I suppose swedish and danish
Zephaniah E\. Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Excuse my ignorance but I have no keys labelled AltGr. Which is it?
The right alt key.
And for those of us that type using 10 fingers, what is the compose
sequence? =e, $e, |e don't seem to work.
Jan.
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Hi Jan!
You wrote:
And for those of us that type using 10 fingers, what is the compose
sequence? =e, $e, |e don't seem to work.
-E and =E work for me.
BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
console and X?
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On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:41:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
of the ?. I
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:41:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- Most keyboards have AltGr-e as Euro
As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
Wichert.
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Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Most keyboards have AltGr-e as Euro
- the French keymap (relative to US layout: AltGr])
- the Hungarian keymap (relative to US layout: AltGr\)
- the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: Shift4)
Did I miss anything or is something
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:08:48AM +0100, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
I suppose swedish and danish keyboards are alike.
I think they are almost identical. AFAIK the only difference is that
'ä' and 'ö' have changed places on the keyboard. And, of course, the
Danes do not use 'ö' but ø but
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?)
but it's essential with European languages with the possible exception of
British English.
In the
On 3/01, Ari Makela wrote:
| In the Nordic keyboard mappings too many important characters ( {[]}\$ to
| mention a few) are behind AltGR (the right alt). It's quite common that
| Nordic programmers use US mappings when they code or some home brewd
| version of US keymap.
A keyboard that is
Hi!
I'm using this discussion for the RFC for a bug/feature I'm
experiencing regarding the EURO-symbol. I still didn't get the
euro-sign to work in console, but that doesn't bother me because I do
almost everything under X.
When I use a iso8859-15 font in xterm, the euro will display
correctly,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ari Makela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?)
but it's essential with European
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 12:39:31PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
console and X?
Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different
upstreams.
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Branden Robinson wrote:
BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
console and X?
Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different
upstreams.
And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for
in the unix world until it's
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:12:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Branden Robinson wrote:
BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
console and X?
Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different
upstreams.
And of course a little consistency and
Branden Robinson wrote:
Well, that need not be the case here. All we need is a gizmo that
generates console keymaps from XKB description files, and then loads
them.
That would be cool, and if I knew anything at all about either of the
maps, I'd be jumping to write it.
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see shy jo, overly
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The best one is where microsoft put their symbol in
'iso-8859-1'-cp1252-winlatin1, which is in 80, instead of a4 where
iso-8859-15 puts it. What does most codepages use? 80 or A4? Does
iso-8859-1 even have anything in 80? Is
There is a cent symbol: ¢ (compose c |)
Or Shift-AltGr-e (*) for us poor little individuals who do not have a
compose key on our keyboard (and have not bothered to map it anywhere);
I think this Cent-symbol belongs to ISO-8859-1, at least so this is not
going crazy about i18n as someone
Huch, apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded and you have fixed fonts
with latin15 charset. And visit:
FWIW, it is latin9, not 15. (I know, I could have left this unsaid.)
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#include hallo.h
Joey Hess wrote on Tue Jan 01, 2002 um 11:33:48PM:
Yeah Paul has a point. I'm in America; I've never even been to Europe,
but since I do pay for things in (virtual) euro (gandi.net rules), it'd
be odd to have to change my LANG to get the symbol. The Debian euro
Not LANG is the
On Jan 02, Paul Dwerryhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
Yes, you are.
echo 'en_AU.ISO8859-15 ISO-8859-15' /etc/locale.gen
locale-gen
have to change the LANG environment variable in order to access the Euro
symbol.
You may
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:04:12PM +1100, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
However, I tend to spend most of the year living in the Netherlands,
which is one of the countries adopting the Euro, and there's no Euro
symbol in the fonts used by en_AU. I don't speak Dutch, so there's not much
point setting
Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ah, so *that's* why I'm seeing a lot of open squares on webpages
where I should see a Euro symbol. Instead of using iso8859-15, the
site is using M$ bastard-8859-1. Well perhaps the Linux distro's
should follow that example, put a Euro symbol
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jan 02, Paul Dwerryhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
Yes, you are.
echo 'en_AU.ISO8859-15 ISO-8859-15' /etc/locale.gen
locale-gen
Possibly dumb question: does it matter that the above is not
However, I tend to spend most of the year living in the Netherlands,
which is one of the countries adopting the Euro, and there's no Euro
symbol in the fonts used by en_AU. I don't speak Dutch, so there's not much
point setting LANG to nl, nl_NL or whatever. And there's no [EMAIL
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: Shift4)
All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still
the ¤-symbol (currency).
/Micce
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I demand that Miquel van Smoorenburg may or may not have written...
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The best one is where microsoft put their symbol in
'iso-8859-1'-cp1252-winlatin1, which is in 80, instead of a4 where
iso-8859-15 puts it. What does most
Hello,
I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
of the ¤. I cannot found good and trustworthy informations on the net,
so
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,
I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
of the ¤. I cannot found
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:41, Eduard Bloch wrote:
I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
used for this.
Why is there a sudden need for a cent symbol?
Australia has had cents for 35 years
begin Eduard Bloch quotation:
I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
of the ¤. I cannot found good and trustworthy
Russell Coker wrote:
(*) There is a symbol used occasionally that is a 'c' with two small
vertical lines going through the top and the bottom. But it doesn't appear
on any typewriter or computer keyboard, there are no special fonts in common
use for displaying it, so everyone uses the
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 12:54:46PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
There is a cent symbol: ¢ (compose c |)
It's available in the standard fixed font for X.
a related note, when will the Euro be part of fixed? :)
Anybody knows anything about it?
Greetings
Bernd
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Russell Coker wrote:
(*) There is a symbol used occasionally that is a 'c' with two small
vertical lines going through the top and the bottom. But it doesn't appear
on any typewriter or computer keyboard, there are no special fonts in
common
#include hallo.h
Bernd Eckenfels wrote on Tue Jan 01, 2002 um 07:21:17PM:
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 12:54:46PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
There is a cent symbol: ¢ (compose c |)
It's available in the standard fixed font for X.
a related note, when will the Euro be part of fixed? :)
Anybody
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 07:53:46PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
a related note, when will the Euro be part of fixed? :)
Anybody knows anything about it?
Huch, apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded and you have fixed fonts
with latin15 charset.
My -misc-fixed fonts already have
On Jan 01, Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huch, apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded and you have fixed fonts
with latin15 charset. And visit:
You also have lot of troubles... After installing transcoded fonts and
setting [EMAIL PROTECTED] the default font used by gtk applications is
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:29:44AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
You also have lot of troubles... After installing transcoded fonts and
setting [EMAIL PROTECTED] the default font used by gtk applications is
much smaller.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
have
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 04:04, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
However, I tend to spend most of the year living in the Netherlands,
which is one of the countries adopting the Euro, and there's no Euro
symbol in the fonts used by en_AU. I don't speak Dutch, so there's not much
point setting LANG to nl,
Paul Dwerryhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
have to change the LANG environment variable in order to access the Euro
symbol.
I agree. I'm not sure if there is a real alternative, short of making
Debian completely Unicode
* Paul Dwerryhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020101 21:04]:
adopted the Euro, but is it inconceivable that English speakers of non-Euro
countries might need to use the Euro symbol?
The new Latin9 nicknamed Latin0 aims to update Latin1 by replacing the
less needed symbols ¦¨´¸¼½¾ with forgotten French
Yeah Paul has a point. I'm in America; I've never even been to Europe,
but since I do pay for things in (virtual) euro (gandi.net rules), it'd
be odd to have to change my LANG to get the symbol. The Debian euro
faq was very unclear to me on that point though. What exactly doesn't
work if LANG is
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