debian in ROM (was: Re: Editor wars considered harmful)

1997-06-25 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, SirDibos wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Rabone wrote: Or if anyone interested, make up a special ROM with kernel etc in it, so the machine will boot from ROM... Has anyone done this? You'd need about 512 kB of ROM. Where are you going to put it? Ethercard boot

RE: debian in ROM (was: Re: Editor wars considered harmful)

1997-06-25 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Michael Meskes wrote: Is there soemthing like a real rescue disk? Or are we talking about the installation disks? I was referring to resq installation boot disk. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On Jun 23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote: The solution is to put up a menu of check-boxes of what editor you want, and install it from packages as soon as possible after the system is installed. Not everybody installs off of CD-Rom, and can therefore make their selection from the menu

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: The problem is that no editor is popular with everyone, and nobody is learning VI any longer, and Emacs isn't so popular either. lots of people are learning still vi nowadays for pretty much the same reasons that they learnt it in the past: it's small,

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-24 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] lots of people are learning still vi nowadays for pretty much the same reasons that they learnt it in the past: it's small, it's lean, it's fast, it's powerful, it does regular expressions, it's flexible, it's on every unix system (and many other systems

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-24 Thread Buddha Buck
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: yes, there should be a veritable plethora of editors available for installation AFTER the base system is up and running. The more the better. The base system should have ae (or similar newbie editor like pico) and the smallest possible

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-24 Thread Jon Rabone
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Show me a computer that can boot off a cdrom... and gimme a cdrom that will boot up debian... And Ill buy it like a shot. Mine will. And no, you can't have it. Most modern Award BIOSes will boot El Torito CD images, and I believe the official Debian

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-24 Thread SirDibos
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Rabone wrote: Or if anyone interested, make up a special ROM with kernel etc in it, so the machine will boot from ROM... Has anyone done this? You'd need about 512 kB of ROM. Where are you going to put it? Ethercard boot ROMS are more like 16 kB. Bugger that. How

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread Bruce Perens
Francesco Tapparo: Of course ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default installation, joe must be the choiche, IMO. From: Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a editor war. Please don't continue it. Don't worry, whether or not he continues it, he will be ignored. There will be

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread Bruce Perens
The problem is that no editor is popular with everyone, and nobody is learning VI any longer, and Emacs isn't so popular either. The solution is to put up a menu of check-boxes of what editor you want, and install it from packages as soon as possible after the system is installed. Adding editors

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Jun 22, Lars Wirzenius wrote [ Please don't Cc: public replies to me. ] Francesco Tapparo: Of course ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default installation, joe must be the choiche, IMO. This is a editor war. Please don't continue it.

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread SirDibos
On 23 Jun 1997, Sven Rudolph wrote: (Nowadays many people won't install base from floppy, so I'd even risk more base floppies, but currently this is plain speculation, because there is enough free space (more than 800kBK for 1.44MB floppies).) Ehhh! Ix nay! Hold on! No way man. I dont

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread Bruce Perens
Show me a computer that can boot off a cdrom... and gimme a cdrom that will boot up debian... And Ill buy it like a shot. Most modern motherboards will boot an IDE CD-ROM in the El Torrito format. The Debian Official CD will boot into the installation system. No floppies, no LOADLIN, etc.

Re: Editor wars considered harmful

1997-06-23 Thread Erik B. Andersen
Show me a computer that can boot off a cdrom... and gimme a cdrom that will boot up debian... And Ill buy it like a shot. Most modern motherboards will boot an IDE CD-ROM in the El Torrito format. The Debian Official CD will boot into the installation system. No floppies, no LOADLIN,