Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-09 Thread Marc Haber
On 09 Aug 2003 05:11:39 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ifupdown surely looks bad. Shouldn't someone else take over the package then? Greetings Marc, not feeling fit to take the package, but seriously thinking about a fork -- -- !! No

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Nathanael Nerode) | However, not having enough time to chase down important bugs is no | excuse for not reviewing simple patches to fix simple bugs, which | doesn't take an awful lot of time at all. (It is a good excuse for not | reviewing complicated or subtle patches.) Once you have

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:34:20AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It's not like a developer could do anything more, in these two That being true still doesn't help non DDs to contribute. Indeed, but it also means that they are not reasons why people should be given accounts. cases.

Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long period of time. When exactly is a package (take ifupdown for

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users requested essential features like pppoa and kernel space pppoe

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:40, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users requested

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:40:18PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think any DD reads those? Do DDs care about Bugs with patches? And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp actually appears to be unmaintained. Many users

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-08 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:25:27 -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: However, not having enough time to chase down important bugs is no excuse for not reviewing simple patches to fix simple bugs, which doesn't take an awful lot of time at all. (It is a good excuse for not reviewing complicated or

Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:25:21PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:34:20AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If you actually dig into the list, you'll find that many of the bugs with patches fall into the same category as these two. Most of the rest actually need significant attention, not

Re: Unmaintained Packages (was: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas)

2003-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:39:52 +0100, Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And don't tell me glibc is unmaintained or ppp. ppp *was* unmaintained, for a long period of time. When

Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moin Goswin! Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Thursday, den 07. August 2003: Working on boot-floppies and debian-installer is not realy fruitfull as non-DD. cvs access goes a long way there. I must have severe reading and parsing problems

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Or a system Try http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch . -- You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Or a system Try http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch . Still

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy access to packages with patches pending would be a start. Good grief, how easy do we have to make it?

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more easy access to packages with patches pending

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-07 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andrew Suffield wrote: glibc is even worse. It has multiple maintainers, and they still don't have enough time to chase down all the important bugs, let alone insignificant ones like this. This is unfortunately true; glibc seems to be severely broken on a routine basis upstream. Kinda makes me

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-07 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 06:25:27PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Andrew Suffield wrote: glibc is even worse. It has multiple maintainers, and they still don't have enough time to chase down all the important bugs, let alone insignificant ones like this. This is unfortunately true; glibc

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:52:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=whateverinclude=patch See the form at

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:50:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:42:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Maybe an interface/filter for the bts that gives one a more

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas [Was: Re: About NM and Next Release]

2003-08-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:52:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good grief, how easy do we have to make it? http://bugs.debian.org/tag:patch