Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-15 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Tue, 09 May 2006 22:49:36 +0200 Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo Mones [EMAIL PROTECTED] sylpheed-gtk1 sylpheed-gtk1-i18n Fixed. Thanks for reminding, -- Ricardo Mones ~ The three principal virtues of a programmer are Laziness, Impatience, and

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 16:21, Daniel Schepler wrote: Le Mardi 09 Mai 2006 22:49, Bill Allombert a écrit : Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org ... libkcal2b libkdepim1a It looks like these two have circular dependencies because libkdepim depends on

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Sam 13 Mai 2006 08:45, Adrian von Bidder a écrit : On Wednesday 10 May 2006 16:21, Daniel Schepler wrote: Le Mardi 09 Mai 2006 22:49, Bill Allombert a écrit : Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org ... libkcal2b libkdepim1a It looks like these two

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-12 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:31:58PM +0200, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: Brendan O'Dea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:20:19PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: (In fact, IMHO nothing should depends from perl-modules at all). Correct. I'd prefer that nothing did. Is this

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Thursday 11 May 2006 01:25, Frank Küster wrote: The only things that should be installed separately are probably aptitude, apt and dpkg, then just dist-upgrade. From memory, upgrading apt + friends seperately isn't possible whilst synaptic is installed. In sarge, the gnome meta package

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:36:18AM +1000, Andrew Vaughan wrote: On Thursday 11 May 2006 01:25, Frank Küster wrote: The only things that should be installed separately are probably aptitude, apt and dpkg, then just dist-upgrade. From memory, upgrading apt + friends seperately isn't possible

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:23:34AM +0200, Michael Koch wrote: Hello, antlr gjdoc Somehow these seem to be false positives to me because the packages depend on a java runtime environment which can but does not have to depend on. The dependency involve the following packages:

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:57:22AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: maybe the corresponding g++-X.Y and libstdc++-Z-X.Z-dev packages could be solved by merging these packages. Anyway, these binaries are built from the same source, so we should ot care- please note that cycles that cycles of

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Bill Allombert wrote: Hello Debian developers, Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. Alastair McKinstry [EMAIL PROTECTED] console-common console-tools Ok, console-common will depend on ( kbd | console-tools) in the next

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread allomber
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:57:22AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Bill Allombert writes: Debian GCC Maintainers debian-gcc@lists.debian.org g++-3.3 g++-3.4 g++-4.0 g++-4.1 gcj gcj-4.0 gcj-4.1 java-gcj-compat libgcj-dev libgcj6-dev

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. perl perl-modules These two packages are meant to be installed together, split only for arch any/all. I'm a bit puzzled as to why

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mer 10 Mai 2006 14:40, Brendan O'Dea a écrit : On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. perl perl-modules These two packages are meant to be installed together, split

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Henning Glawe
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:40:32PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. perl perl-modules These two packages are meant to be installed

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread James Vega
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:32:53AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2006 22:49:36 +0200, Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] alsaplayer-alsa alsaplayer-common alsaplayer-gtk Hmm... alsaplayer-common Depends: on alsaplayer-alsa |

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:51:59PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le Mer 10 Mai 2006 14:40, Brendan O'Dea a écrit : On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. perl perl-modules

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 10 mai 2006 à 23:44 +1000, Brendan O'Dea a écrit : A specific problem, rather than a vague description of evil would help. See for example http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=316403;msg=15 among many RC bugs caused by circular dependencies. -- .''`.

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 03:01:21PM +0200, Henning Glawe wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:40:32PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. perl

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mer 10 Mai 2006 15:44, Brendan O'Dea a écrit : The current dependencies are used to allow a slightly newer version of perl-modules to be installed: porters had issues in unstable where perl was uninstallable due to the package not having built on an architecture.* Package: perl Depends:

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Daniel Schepler
Le Mardi 09 Mai 2006 22:49, Bill Allombert a écrit : Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org ... libkcal2b libkdepim1a It looks like these two have circular dependencies because libkdepim depends on libkcal, while a couple of the standard libkcal plugins (namely

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:40:32PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. perl perl-modules These two packages are meant to be installed

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:24, Bill Allombert wrote: gjdoc kaffe kaffe-jthreads kaffe-pthreads http://debian.semistable.com/dot/kaffe-pthreads_stable.png Can someone point me to an explanation for this (Etch)? gjdoc depends on kaffe. But kaffe-pthreads provides kaffe. Why then is it

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mer 10 Mai 2006 17:01, Mike Bird a écrit : On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:24, Bill Allombert wrote: gjdoc kaffe kaffe-jthreads kaffe-pthreads http://debian.semistable.com/dot/kaffe-pthreads_stable.png Can someone point me to an explanation for this (Etch)? gjdoc depends on kaffe. But

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 22:49 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Hello Debian developers, Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. [snip] Debian Xfce Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce4-mixer xfce4-mixer-alsa xfce4-mixer-oss In

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Frank Küster
Brendan O'Dea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perl-modules should not depends on perl. It's useless to have only perl-modules installed, but this create no harm. moreover people just apt-get install perl, so that won't break anything. That would be true if perl depended on perl-modules (=

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Daniel Schepler
Le Mercredi 10 Mai 2006 17:09, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : why do kaffe-[pj]threads depends upon gjdoc ? isn't a recommends enough ? given its description, it looks like a developpement tool, and I don't get why it's needed just for running java apps, I even don't really understand why it

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:20:19PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le Mer 10 Mai 2006 15:44, Brendan O'Dea a écrit : The current dependencies are used to allow a slightly newer version of perl-modules to be installed: porters had issues in unstable where perl was uninstallable due to the

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Brendan O'Dea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:20:19PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: (In fact, IMHO nothing should depends from perl-modules at all). Correct. I'd prefer that nothing did. Is this documented anywhere? If is really is the case that nothing should depend

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Joey Hess
Frank Küster wrote: Well, it isn't, since perl is installed by debootstrap (or whatever the installer uses) *blank stare* Upgrading from sarge should be done according to the instructions in the release notes. The only things that should be installed separately are probably aptitude, apt

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Hubert Chan
On Wed, 10 May 2006 09:04:14 -0400, James Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:32:53AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: Hmm... alsaplayer-common Depends: on alsaplayer-alsa | alsaplayer-output and alsaplayer-gtk | alsaplayer-interface. Is this really a problem? My question,

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread James Vega
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:41:56PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 09:04:14 -0400, James Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:32:53AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: Hmm... alsaplayer-common Depends: on alsaplayer-alsa | alsaplayer-output and alsaplayer-gtk |

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Hubert Chan
On Wed, 10 May 2006 14:24:58 -0400, James Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:41:56PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: alsaplayer-common contains the main alsaplayer binary (/usr/bin/alsaplayer), which does not function without an alsaplayer-output and alsaplayer-input plugin.

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:41:56PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 09:04:14 -0400, James Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:32:53AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: Hmm... alsaplayer-common Depends: on alsaplayer-alsa | alsaplayer-output and alsaplayer-gtk |

Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-09 Thread Bill Allombert
Hello Debian developers, Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. This list is also available at http://debian.semistable.com/unstable_developers.txt (update daily, courtesy of Robert Lemmen). A list of dependencies including dependency graphs is

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:49:36PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Here the lists of packages involved in circular dependencies listed by maintainers. Debian NTP Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] ntp-refclock ntp-server ntp-simple This is a really nice loop causing RC bug #329746

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnome-bin gnome-libs-data gnucash gnucash-common gtkhtml libgnome32 libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 libgnorba27 libgtkhtml-data Except for gnucash

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-09 Thread Matthias Klose
Bill Allombert writes: Debian GCC Maintainers debian-gcc@lists.debian.org g++-3.3 g++-3.4 g++-4.0 g++-4.1 gcj gcj-4.0 gcj-4.1 java-gcj-compat libgcj-dev libgcj6-dev libgcj7-dev libstdc++5-3.3-dev

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Koch
Hello, antlr gjdoc Somehow these seem to be false positives to me because the packages depend on a java runtime environment which can but does not have to depend on. libgnucrypto-java libjessie-java I think these an be removed before etch release.

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 4

2006-05-09 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 9 May 2006 22:49:36 +0200, Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Debian GNUstep maintainers ... gnustep-ppd Ah, I didn't notice gnustep-ppd was involved in a circular dependency as well. This one should be easy to fix. (And I'm working on the other GNUstep packages this week.)