Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:01:25 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the reports of another member of the ftp-master team, the situation was cleared up, but Mr. Troup re-enabled the check that breaks dpkg-sig on purpose after not

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:41:21 +0100, Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 23:33:48]: If the DPL team is actually addressing that issue, it is not doing so transparently. That was on purpose. we thought that there was something to be learned from

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:11:23 11:07 +0100]: What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling of #339686 by a member of the DPL team I don't get the impression that the DPL team actually

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:32:19 -0500, Erinn Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005:11:23 11:07 +0100]: What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling of #339686 by a member

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Marc Haber wrote: Sorry. #340306. Hmm... wasn't the situation around this bug cleared up in another d-devel thread no more than two or three days ago, and a fix already commited to CVS? -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] Hmm... wasn't the situation around this bug cleared up in another d-devel thread no more than two or three days ago, and a fix already commited to CVS? That's what I thought. But the bug is still open. And jvw's reasoning that it is OK for ftp.debian.org to

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling of #339686 by a member of the DPL team I don't get the impression that the DPL team actually cares. (#340306) In

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:14:47 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Marc Haber wrote: Sorry. #340306. Hmm... wasn't the situation around this bug cleared up in another d-devel thread no more than two or three days ago, and a fix already commited to CVS?

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber [Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:38:15 +0100]: I confused these bugs because in the discussion, somebody used #339686 to show that I am doing a job as bad as Mr. Troup. 10:18 dato Zugschlus: so. how'd you'd feel if I said that #339686 was a deliberate attempt on your part to

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are you trying to do instead? If you might have noticed, we have _just_ _another_ ftpmaster situation _right_ _now_, and from handling of #339686 by a member of the DPL team I don't get the impression that the DPL team actually cares. I can't

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the reports of another member of the ftp-master team, the situation was cleared up, but Mr. Troup re-enabled the check that breaks dpkg-sig on purpose after not being amused about HE's rant on here. If this is accurate, it is not reasonable.

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the DPL-Team. others there do so, too. I hope this is true. I really do.

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Jaakko Niemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-22 17:12:00]: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the DPL-Team.

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Scripsit Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:02AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: If somebody designs and implements (after a suitable architectural review) some software to support distributed keyring maintenance in a secure, auditable way, it is likely that calls for

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Andreas Schuldei wrote: Get to next debconf and see him actually work with people. No need for words. did i beat someone up when i was watched? did it get caught on film, even? (c: ... where did the evidence go? :) --j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-22 08:52:25]: * Andreas Schuldei: i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the DPL-Team. others there do so, too. Is this the delegation to teams item on

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 23:33:48]: If the DPL team is actually addressing that issue, it is not doing so transparently. That was on purpose. we thought that there was something to be learned from threads on public mailinglists that lead nowhere and wanted to try private mail

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 08:55:52]: On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down several important processes in Debian soon realize that there is a problem and that it

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

2005/11/21, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It can be considered bad from a technical viewpoint - as far as I understand the master copy of the keyring is currently on a medium that is under the keyring maintainer's direct physical control. The obvious way of switching to team maintenance

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Anyway, surely the acceptance onto the keyring is designated by a signiture on that key, not just by it's presense in a particular file? Yes, it *is* the presense in a particular file. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them.

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] My first thought would be to simply create multiple keyrings, one for each keyring maintainer, which are merged on a regular basis. Teaching the archive scripts to look at more than one keyring wouldn't be too hard. That would not solve the

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:05:02 +0100, Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-21 08:55:52]: On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down several

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Hi Henning, On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:02AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] push aside? There's no rule that says there can be only one. Yes, replacing someone could become ugly, but providing additional hands can't be considered bad,

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

[Anand Kumria] - require the developer to generate a new key - require the developer to have _at least_ N number of other, existing developers sign their key - once the developer

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the DPL-Team. others there do so, too. I hope this is true. I really do. However, I have no particular evidence that it is

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

* Andreas Schuldei: i have not given up that hope yet and i invest a considerable amount of time working on this issue as part of my work on the DPL-Team. others there do so, too. Is this the delegation to teams item on http://wiki.debian.org/DPLTeamCurrentIssues? A rather cryptic reference,

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

[Nathanael Nerode] It's a pity the DPL hasn't anointed a less-busy person with authority to alter the keyring. I suspect and hope the DPL try to reason with the people in question first, before the DPL wields his authority and push the current holder of privileged positions aside, as a power

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

2005/11/20, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I suspect and hope the DPL try to reason with the people in question first, before the DPL wields his authority and push the current holder of privileged positions aside, as a power struggle with the overworked people in these privileged key

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? I'm not sure your resignation was valid. Most important debian mechanisms require a signature from a key in the keyring. It is hard for anybody to

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? -- Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait. Ignore my previous post. I had forgotten that the resignation post was indeed signed. It might however be

Re: [useless] I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Chip == Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chip Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key Chip deleted? -- Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chip -- To UNSUBSC Hi. As you are no doubt aware by now, getting your key removed is a great mystery and deep

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Scripsit Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] push aside? There's no rule that says there can be only one. Yes, replacing someone could become ugly, but providing additional hands can't be considered bad, can it? It can be considered bad from a technical viewpoint - as far as I understand

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If somebody designs and implements (after a suitable architectural review) some software to support distributed keyring maintenance in a secure, auditable way, it is likely that calls for adding more people to the task would be considered more

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:29:19 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seriously hope the non-elected people blocking and slowing down several important processes in Debian soon realize that there is a problem and that it might be best for them to solve it by stepping aside or allowing

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

On 15:34 Fri 18 Nov 2005, Chip Salzenberg wrote: Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? That's the way it is. -- David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.damog.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: C671257D Cuando yo nací, la

Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.

Chip Salzenberg wrote: Who does a developer have to fuck around here to get his key deleted? Same one he has to fuck to get a new key added, presumably. It's a pity the DPL hasn't anointed a less-busy person with authority to alter the keyring. -- ksig --random| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

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