Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-24 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Dienstag, den 23.12.2008, 17:37 +0100 schrieb Michelle Konzack: Am 2008-12-22 14:37:58, schrieb Paul Wise: I note that Ubuntu has more than an order of magnitude more popcon submitters: Because it is installed and activated by default... (At least on the Machine I have installed for a

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-12-21 10:32:53, schrieb Sven Joachim: At least as far as popcon is concerned, the number of users does not seem to go down. Are you sure? -- In the last 3 month I have added 158 servers which are under my control... If I have time, I will add the 680 Workstations from the

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-12-22 14:37:58, schrieb Paul Wise: I note that Ubuntu has more than an order of magnitude more popcon submitters: Because it is installed and activated by default... (At least on the Machine I have installed for a friend) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33:38 +0100 Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote: Am 2008-12-21 10:32:53, schrieb Sven Joachim: At least as far as popcon is concerned, the number of users does not seem to go down. Are you sure? -- In the last 3 month I have added 158 servers

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Neil, Am 2008-12-23 17:06:33, schrieb Neil Williams: On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:33:38 +0100 Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote: And it seems, there is something rejecting my popcon messages from my 28 servers hosted in the Turkey and Iran. You mean other than the

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article 20081223184408.ge28...@tamay-dogan.net you wrote: ;-) You are not the first one asking this... And no, I can not send messages to popcon since more then 4 month. Try running: bash -x /etc/cron.weekly/popularity-contest And also check /var/log/popularity-contest if addresses and

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-12-23 20:54:41, schrieb Bernd Eckenfels: In article 20081223184408.ge28...@tamay-dogan.net you wrote: ;-) You are not the first one asking this... And no, I can not send messages to popcon since more then 4 month. Try running: bash -x /etc/cron.weekly/popularity-contest And

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article 20081223203134.gh28...@tamay-dogan.net you wrote: From: pop...@tp570.private.x-x.net which is probably correct and since I am sending THIS message over the same relay mail.private.tamay-dogan.net I know, my Mailserver is working. You could try to set a different

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/23/08 15:50, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article 20081223203134.gh28...@tamay-dogan.net you wrote: From: pop...@tp570.private.x-x.net which is probably correct and since I am sending THIS message over the same relay mail.private.tamay-dogan.net I know, my Mailserver is

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 04:39:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Slightly changing topic: Slightly going off-topic, don't you think? This whole sub-thread looks off-topic to me, but please at least ask further questions on how to use/enable popcon on debian-user. Thanks, Michael -- To

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-22 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com wrote: Looking at URL: http://popcon.debian.org/ , it seem to me that the number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph popularity-contest versions in use show this, with version 1.41 being the one in stable.

Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Looking at URL: http://popcon.debian.org/ , it seem to me that the number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph popularity-contest versions in use show this, with version 1.41 being the one in stable. When the version in stable, testing and unstable were different (now the same

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Petter Reinholdtsen: The number of installations using testing has been slowly increasing, but not enough to compensate for the reduction in stable installations. The net effect is that fewer and fewer are submitting to popcon.debian.org. This doesn't appear in the per-architecture

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-21 09:40 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Looking at URL: http://popcon.debian.org/ , it seem to me that the number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph popularity-contest versions in use show this, with version 1.41 being the one in stable. When the version in

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:40:45 +0100 Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com wrote: The number of installations using testing has been slowly increasing, but not enough to compensate for the reduction in stable installations. The net effect is that fewer and fewer are submitting to

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Florian Weimer] * Petter Reinholdtsen: The number of installations using testing has been slowly increasing, but not enough to compensate for the reduction in stable installations. The net effect is that fewer and fewer are submitting to popcon.debian.org. This doesn't appear in the

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Karl Goetz] Or some people are doing what I did - clean install from stable - testing (to see the new D-I) and not installing popcon. Oh, I am sure some people are doing this. But for it to have an effect on the statistics, more people need to do install lenny without enabling popcon than

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Teemu Likonen
Petter Reinholdtsen (2008-12-21 14:38 +0100) wrote: [Florian Weimer] This doesn't appear in the per-architecture statistics. Are you sure you got your numbers correct? As you can see, the number of submissions have dropped the last month. Not by much so far, but it used to increase every

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-21 15:14 +0100, Teemu Likonen wrote: Petter Reinholdtsen (2008-12-21 14:38 +0100) wrote: As you can see, the number of submissions have dropped the last month. Not by much so far, but it used to increase every week. Maybe we want to look at the bigger picture. This is a graph

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: 2008-09-02 75595 2008-09-15 76712-- 2008-10-01 76532-- 2008-10-15 77111 2008-11-01 79441 2008-11-15 79694 2008-12-01 79459 2008-12-15 79262 2008-12-20 79202 As you can see, the number of submissions have dropped the last month.

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:40:45AM +0100]: Looking at URL: http://popcon.debian.org/ , it seem to me that the number of stable installations is dropping fast. The graph popularity-contest versions in use show this, with version 1.41 being the one in stable. (...) The

Re: Is The number of stable users dropping fast?

2008-12-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: I suspect this is because Debian is loosing users. :( While we might be losing users to derivative distributions, that won't take my sleep away. And I'm not only talking about Ubuntu - I note that Ubuntu has more than an