Stephen Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thinkpad 600). But I'm impressed. Theoretically, one
is not supposed to be able to hot swap a PS/2 mouse.
But it works. Kudos to the kernel folks.
The problem has never been that the mouse didn't work after a hot
swap.
The problem is that with
Well shut my mouth! I did some testing this past
weekend, as I said I would, and results are better
than expected. First, leaving things the way I had
them configured (X pointing to /dev/gpmdata and gpm
pointing to /dev/psaux, I unplugged the PS/2 mouse
from the mouse port. The mouse became
Since my initial post I have done some research on the
subject of mouse support in the Linux kernel. I can
see now why my suggestion was met with such strong
opposition: it goes counter to the direction the
kernel has been going since 2.5. With such a sweeping
redesign of mouse support since
Quoting Ben Finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
Given most people don't use the console ever
Where is your data for this assertion?
Probably too wide generalization by Lennart.
My own assertion was that people who use the console *on an enough
regular
With current kernels, if you use /dev/input/mice,
the
port can be shared
by gpm and X at the same time, and all mice you
connect
(no matter what)
show up in that device.
Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer
kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been
added. That does
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On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
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Given most people don't use the console ever,
installing a service that
is only for console use by default is simply wrong.
I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
use the
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:35:20 -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
I realize that PS/2 mice were not intended to be hot
swapped, but stuff happens. Sometimes the connector
is loose and falls out, sometimes a mischievous
co-worker unplugs it as a practical joke, sometimes
the mouse fails,
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
use the console. I, for one, use it a lot. But even
I work mainly in consoles too but I have no use at all for gpm as my
consoles are normally all in a graphical environment
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On 05/29/08 11:25, Frans Pop wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
use the console. I, for one, use it a lot. But even
I work mainly in consoles too but I
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:16:28AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Where is your data for this assertion?
The number of people that have no idea how to get to the console from X.
Personally I hate dealing with machines that don't have gpm installed,
but I don't want to bloat the base install either.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:35:20AM -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer
kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been
added. That does take away part of my supporting
argument for configuring X to use gpm.
It was a very nice improvement.
I
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:22:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Which I did many years ago. But it would still make it easier for
us dual-use people, and not affect only-gooey users, if gpm were the
default.
I would like ssh installed by default before gpm, but I don't think we
need to go back
[Stephen Powell]
I realize that PS/2 mice were not intended to be hot swapped, but
stuff happens.
The kernel 'psmouse' module, and the 'serio' layer that actually talks
to the i8042, actually have much more thorough and robust support for
PS/2 hotplugging than gpm ever did. The kernel even
Quoting Stephen Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
This will allow the use of the mouse both in a virtual
console and in X. Not only that, but hot swapping
Not to mention the various remarks that have been made, I would like
to enhance that ppl who use the Linux console on a regular basis
(which is
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 06:49:17AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
Not to mention the various remarks that have been made, I would like
to enhance that ppl who use the Linux console on a regular basis
(which is usually what motivates activating a mouse on it) are
perfectly able to know that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
Given most people don't use the console ever
Where is your data for this assertion?
installing a service that is only for console use by default is
simply wrong. The less services need to be enabled by default the
better.
This argument would
On jeu, 2008-05-29 at 08:16 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
This argument would also see the removal of 'login', since that's not
needed by your putative majority of people who don't log in over
text-only interfaces.
Do you _really_ think gpm is as important as login?
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Per the suggestion of Jérémy Bobbio when he closed Bug
# 481514 against installation-reports, I am posting
this item to the debian-devel mailing list.
The Debian installer needs some improvement when it
comes to mouse configuration. Currently, if the user
requests a standard system and a desktop
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:57:11PM -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
Per the suggestion of J?r?my Bobbio when he closed Bug
# 481514 against installation-reports, I am posting
this item to the debian-devel mailing list.
The Debian installer needs some improvement when it
comes to mouse
Lennart Sorensen wrote:
With current kernels, if you use /dev/input/mice, the port can be shared
by gpm and X at the same time, and all mice you connect (no matter what)
show up in that device. Of course PS/2 mice can not be connected while
the system is on, since the hardware simply is not
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