Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-18 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default python in sid (current unstable), until there is talk that Sarge is nearing a freeze. There is simply no point in undergoing the pain of a major python release twice

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-16 Thread Laura Creighton
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is what is this? The link is dead. Is this the former PSA? No. My brain was tired -- it was python-in-business.org. Apologies. We are new. We are a Business Non-Profit Society 'to organise and

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: Laura: (and Guido et al.) Debian plans to support at least Python 2.2 and 2.3 in the next release (sarge); [...] One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default python in sid (current unstable), until there is

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is what is this? The link is dead. Is this the former PSA? Guido van Rossum writes: Now, if 2.3 won't be stable until well into next year (as opposed to the schedule in PEP 283), then we may want

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is what is this? The link is dead. Is this the former PSA? Try www.python-in-business.org. It's a Swedish non-profit created earlier this year. Guido van Rossum writes: Now, if 2.3 won't be

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
On Aug 06, Torsten Landschoff wrote: As the new upstream of python-gnome (for GNOME 2) needs python 2.2 for building I am wondering when python 2.2 will get the default version for Debian. Any insights? I believe a consensus was reached on debian-python that we would move to Python 2.3 as the

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
maturity until mid 2003. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) [Context:] Subject: Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release? From: Laura Creighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:25:01PM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote: On Aug 06, Torsten Landschoff wrote: As the new upstream of python-gnome (for GNOME 2) needs python 2.2 for building I am wondering when python 2.2 will get the default version for Debian. Any insights? I believe a consensus

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:02:18AM -0400, Guido van Rossum wrote: Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a maintenance release, 2.2.2 will

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a maintenance release, 2.2.2 will be issued some time later this year. But Zope 2.5, one

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence writes mean? If typing apt-get is the hardest technical thing you ever do, I want you to get 2.2, not 2.1 or 2.3 when you decide to get Python. Also, I want

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Florent Rougon
Laura Creighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence writes mean? It means that, if realized, the next Debian release would have: - python 2.3 in the standard set of

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
Laura Creighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence writes mean? It means that, if realized, the next Debian release would have: - python 2.3 in the standard

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is collaborating with the Python developers to produce Python-in-a-Tie, a business-targetted release of Python. This is a 'Sumo-Release', which will include other useful Python libraries and programs

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
Now, if 2.3 won't be stable until well into next year (as opposed to the schedule in PEP 283), then we may want to target 2.2.x as our default version. Which version of PEP 283 are you referring to? It once had us release the final version around the end of August. But the current version

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is collaborating with the Python developers to produce Python-in-a-Tie, a business-targetted release of Python. This is a

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
snip BTW: is the PIAT consortium going to offer any DSFG free software? Jim Penny It is the PIT-SIG, not consortium, which is part of the Python Business Forum. You can read our bylaws here: www.python-in-business.org/about/bylaws (if you care to). We didn't come together for the

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: [...] One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default python in sid (current unstable), until there is talk that