Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-11-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 07:23:13PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > It is nice, I'm running it, but even for my personal installation I > found too many annoying things (including looong time till bugfixes > arrive in a release), so that I think about migrating to gogs. > Its nice, works well, but it

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-11-12 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 06/08/2016 10:08 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" >> model. For such a crucial service I would really prefer a real open source >> system. But maybe I am

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-11-12 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 06/08/2016 09:39 PM, Adrien CLERC wrote: > Let me add another one: GitBlit (http://gitblit.com/) It may not be as > active as others, but it is quite simple, and provide me a huge benefits > over Gogs, since it knows how to handle git repositories created by > third-party on disk. Using Gogs,

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-11-12 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Thursday 28 July 2016 12:10 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > I'm going to setup a gitlab.debian.net alias to git.fosscommunity.in for > those who want to use gitlab unofficially. I have setup gitlab.debian.net as an alias for git.fosscommunity.in $ host gitlab.debian.net gitlab.debian.net is an

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-08-01 Thread Vincent Danjean
Hi, Le 28/07/2016 à 08:40, Pirate Praveen a écrit : > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > controversial alternative pagure. Are you (more or less) orphaning the gitlab Debian package, or are you dropping your efforts to make Debian accepts an official

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2016, ജൂലൈ 30 8:21:43 AM IST, Luca Filipozzi wrote: >We would prefer other software (gitlab, pagure, etc.) to be packaged, >if >possible; surely this software is useful to our community and having it >packaged is worthwhile. There is ITP already. I don't think we should

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Lee Fuller
Is it practical to use both concurrently for a brief period before finally settling, it would require more setup time but would add some insight to a debate that is currently mainly opinion based. Lee Fuller (mobile) PGP Fingerprint: 4ACAEBA4B9EE1B3A075034302D5C3D050E6ED55A On 30 Jul 2016 3:51

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 07:47:48PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > > > > On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > > > At this

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > > > > > On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > > > On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > > > controversial alternative pagure. > > > > Pagure

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, gustavo panizzo wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > > > > > On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread gustavo panizzo
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > > > On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > > > controversial alternative pagure. > > > > Pagure

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Alexandre Viau
On 29/07/16 11:12 AM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I also looked into pagure and I see two problems: it is not packaged Relevant bug: https://bugs.debian.org/829046 I will contribute to this. Cheers, -- Alexandre Viau av...@debian.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > > controversial alternative pagure. > > Pagure looks great and I am happy to see that we are finally moving > towards something

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-29 Thread Alexandre Viau
On 28/07/16 02:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > controversial alternative pagure. Pagure looks great and I am happy to see that we are finally moving towards something that (more) people agree with. Thank you for your

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-28 Thread Tiago Ilieve
Pirate, On 28 July 2016 at 03:40, Pirate Praveen wrote: > Hi all, > > At this point, I'm dropping work on gitlab for debian and moving to less > controversial alternative pagure. Actually, this is quite sad. You have put a lot of effort in the GitLab packaging, but in

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-28 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 06/22/2016 02:12 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 08:13:40AM +, Eliran Mesika wrote: >> As I wrote earlier, we're open to making certain features available upon >> request. In the specific case of the feature that was discussed - could you >> please elaborate what is

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-18 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Holger Levsen writes: > until your mail I wasn't aware that Puppet is also split into a free > and a commercial version… The Puppet in "Puppet Enterprise" is the same code as in the open source version. A Puppet Enterprise installation consists of additional omnibus-type

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-07-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, sorry for the late reply, I ment to discuss this during DebConf IRL and then RL came into the way… On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 02:07:13PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 08:50:05PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > > Do you also object to DSA using puppet for

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Holger Levsen > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 08:50:05PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > Do you also object to DSA using puppet for configuration management? > > I don't. In fact I wasnt aware puppet is under "non-free" CLA as well. Your earlier message wasn't about a CLA, but about whether

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 08:50:05PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > Do you also object to DSA using puppet for configuration management? I don't. In fact I wasnt aware puppet is under "non-free" CLA as well. > There are significant pieces of free software where there exists > commercial and

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Philip Hands > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > > Do you also object to DSA using puppet for configuration management? > > Would objecting make any difference? It's unlikely it'd be a significant factor in making us choose something else. I'm still curious, though. There are

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-26 Thread Philip Hands
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Holger Levsen > >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 08:13:40AM +, Eliran Mesika wrote: >> > As I wrote earlier, we're open to making certain features available upon >> > request. In the specific case of the feature that was discussed - could you >> >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Holger Levsen > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 08:13:40AM +, Eliran Mesika wrote: > > As I wrote earlier, we're open to making certain features available upon > > request. In the specific case of the feature that was discussed - could you > > please elaborate what is missing and what

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-22 Thread Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
On 22 June 2016 at 10:42, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 08:13:40AM +, Eliran Mesika wrote: >> As I wrote earlier, we're open to making certain features available upon >> request. In the specific case of the feature that was discussed - could you >>

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-22 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 08:13:40AM +, Eliran Mesika wrote: > As I wrote earlier, we're open to making certain features available upon > request. In the specific case of the feature that was discussed - could you > please elaborate what is missing and what functionality is available on the >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-22 Thread Eliran Mesika
Hi Alex, As I wrote earlier, we're open to making certain features available upon request. In the specific case of the feature that was discussed - could you please elaborate what is missing and what functionality is available on the Enterprise edition that you'd like to be made public? We want to

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-22 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > [adding gitlab folks in cc] > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 02:16 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Ole Streicher wrote: > > > >> Pirate Praveen writes: > Debian needs feature X but it is already in the

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-21 Thread Pirate Praveen
[adding gitlab folks in cc] On Saturday 11 June 2016 02:16 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> Pirate Praveen writes: Debian needs feature X but it is already in the e.nterprise version. We make a patch and for

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 07:58:07PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank wrote: > >> - mapping groups and permissions from alioth to the new system > > Okay, there is this (hacked in?) "allow every DD to write" permission > > that some groups use, which

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-16 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank wrote: >> - mapping groups and permissions from alioth to the new system > > Fusionforge also uses a similar group based permission system. > > Okay, there is this (hacked in?) "allow every DD to write" permission > that some groups use, which

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-14 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Saturday 11 June 2016 11:18 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > I agree this is a legitimate concern. I have asked Gitlab Inc for their > policy on merge requests to Gitlab CE for features already in Gitlab EE. > Based on their reply, we can decide how to proceed. If their reply is > positive, I will

Re: Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-14 Thread Eliran Mesika
Eliran from GitLab here - I lead our strategic partnerships. I read the valid concern raised by Alex and we actually have a public policy on this which you can read on: https://about.gitlab.com/about/#stewardship. We will always welcome any feature request raised by the Debian community and

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 11 juin 2016 10:46 CEST, Holger Levsen  : >> We do patching as part of our daily packaging already: to replace (or >> circumvent) non-dfsg functionality, to integrate into our environment, >> and everything else that upstream is not willing or able to apply >> himself

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2016, ജൂൺ 11 7:13:41 PM IST, Holger Levsen wrote: >I well *know* there are situations where an "Open Source" software is >accompanied by a differently licenced very similar product ("enterprise >edition") and where this "Open Source" variant is basically just a >scam.

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 04:24:49PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Ole, it seems you didn't understand what Alexander ment when he described > > his > > reasoning with a single word, "nagios"? > I'd be interested in that story. I don't know that much, just that nagios ain't part of Debian

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Ole Streicher
Antonio Terceiro writes: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:51:18AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: >> Holger Levsen writes: >> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:24:48AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: >> >> We do patching as part of our daily packaging already: to

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:46:30AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:24:48AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > > We do patching as part of our daily packaging already: to replace (or > > circumvent) non-dfsg functionality, to integrate into our environment, > > and everything

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:51:18AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:24:48AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> We do patching as part of our daily packaging already: to replace (or > >> circumvent) non-dfsg functionality, to

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Ole Streicher
Holger Levsen writes: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:24:48AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: >> We do patching as part of our daily packaging already: to replace (or >> circumvent) non-dfsg functionality, to integrate into our environment, >> and everything else that upstream is

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:24:48AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > We do patching as part of our daily packaging already: to replace (or > circumvent) non-dfsg functionality, to integrate into our environment, > and everything else that upstream is not willing or able to apply > himself but is good

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Ole Streicher wrote: > Pirate Praveen writes: > >> Debian needs feature X but it is already in the e.nterprise version. We > >> make > >> a patch and for commercial reasons it never gets merged (they already sell > >> it > >> in the enterprise

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-11 Thread Ole Streicher
Pirate Praveen writes: >> Debian needs feature X but it is already in the e.nterprise version. We make >> a patch and for commercial reasons it never gets merged (they already sell it >> in the enterprise version). Which means we will have to fork the software and >>

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-10 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 11:10 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >>> I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" >>> model. For such a crucial service I would

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 06:12 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:41:33PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I don't see what's so unreasonable about that.  They're asking you to > > provide the same licence for your contributions, as the licence for the > > existing Gitlab

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 08:31:17PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > I must say that those .net => .org migrations have been a nuisance for > years. For me, at least. Oh yes, I appreciate that, it is a problem. But I don't see an alternative, I can't realistically see GitLab for Debian getting off the

Open Source Definition (was Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project))

2016-06-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I wrote: > > You are not alone, but please do not call Gitlab CE not "real open source". On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 07:40:16PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I do for every software which forces me to sign things like: snip I do not mean to say that your concerns are not valid; but it's important

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-09 Thread Sean Whitton
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 05:51:04PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Another possible option is Pagure > > https://pagure.io/ > > Written in Python and developed by Fedora. Most have probably seen it, but here's a good review of pagure: -- Sean Whitton

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-09 Thread Michal Čihař
Dne 8.6.2016 v 23:51 Barry Warsaw napsal(a): > On Jun 07, 2016, at 11:22 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> I have started a wiki page to compare gitolite and gitlab >> https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/GitNext > > Another possible option is Pagure > > https://pagure.io/ > > Written in Python and

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:41:33PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > I don't see what's so unreasonable about that. They're asking you to > provide the same licence for your contributions, as the licence for the > existing Gitlab software.  Every FOSS project expects that, even if > they don't make

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Jose-Luis Rivas
On 08/06/16, 10:41pm, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 19:40 +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / >

Pagure and Gitolite for project+code hosting (was: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project))

2016-06-08 Thread Ben Finney
Barry Warsaw writes: > Another possible option is Pagure > https://pagure.io/ Wow, that's an attractive option. Thanks! > Written in Python and developed by Fedora. Apropos the discussions in this thread: Pagora uses Gitolite

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 07, 2016, at 11:22 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote: >I have started a wiki page to compare gitolite and gitlab >https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/GitNext Another possible option is Pagure https://pagure.io/ Written in Python and developed by Fedora. Cheers, -Barry pgpAFfrqLj5m8.pgp

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 19:40 +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: [...] > Debian needs feature X but it is already in the e.nterprise version. We make > a patch and for commercial reasons it never gets merged (they already sell it > in the enterprise version). Which means we will have to fork the software

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 19:40 +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" > > > model. For such a crucial service I

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Adrien CLERC
Le 08/06/2016 à 10:53, Christiaan de Die le Clercq a écrit : > > +1 > > Though I am not involved in this discussion and didn't read a lot of > previous emails about this. I am going to assume it would be hosted on > Debian's servers and not with Gitlab's hosted services. We use Gogs at > the

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" >> > model. For such a

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 2016-06-08 11:08:02, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" > > model. For such a crucial service I would really prefer a real open source > > system. But maybe I am

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 11:21:30 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >If it takes off and is popular, then migrating to a .org, what happens to >Alioth, >where git.d.o point etc. are all things to worry about in the future, but >they're >moot if it doesn't take off. So focus on getting a

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" > > model. For such a crucial service I would really prefer a real open source > > system. But maybe I am

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Alexandre Viau wrote: > On 08/06/16 07:57 AM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > >> for authentication, I think you should probably use the Debian SSO with > >>

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexandre Viau
On 08/06/16 10:17 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: > Alexandre Viau writes: >> - DDs login with Debian SSO and upload their public key on the web inteface > > Just a question: aren't there already SSH keys in ldap, and can't these > be re-used? If that is possible, then yes! It would

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Ole Streicher
Alexandre Viau writes: > - DDs login with Debian SSO and upload their public key on the web inteface Just a question: aren't there already SSH keys in ldap, and can't these be re-used? Best regards Ole

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexandre Viau
On 08/06/16 07:57 AM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> for authentication, I think you should probably use the Debian SSO with >> client certificates: >>

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 01:57:10PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > > [SN: trimmed Cc list, as this is about what Debian wants] > > >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > [SN: trimmed Cc list, as this is about what Debian wants] > > > > > > Hi Alex > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 10:53, Christiaan de Die le Clercq wrote: > > > > On 06/08/2016 10:39 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote: > > > On 8 June 2016 at 10:08, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200,

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:25:07AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > Thanks for the offer. It would be great if I have more hands to help with > > migrating git.debian.org > > Whoah there. Running an official Debian gitlab instance is one thing, >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 03:15:29PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On Wednesday 08 June 2016 02:51 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:25:07AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> Thanks for the offer. It would be great if I have more hands to help with > >> migrating

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 10:53, Christiaan de Die le Clercq wrote: > > On 06/08/2016 10:39 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote: > > On 8 June 2016 at 10:08, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > >>> I am also not very keen on using a

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2016-06-08 10:45, Pirate Praveen wrote: On Wednesday 08 June 2016 02:51 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:25:07AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: Thanks for the offer. It would be great if I have more hands to help with migrating git.debian.org Whoah there. Running an

Re: replacing alioth is more than git (Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 09:41:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > setting up this gitlab thing is one thing, but moving away from alioth > has this problem that we'll need to keep (svn|cvs|bzr|hg|...).debian.org > as not only some packages workflows depend on it, but also parts of our >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 02:51 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:25:07AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> Thanks for the offer. It would be great if I have more hands to help with >> migrating git.debian.org > > Whoah there. Running an official Debian gitlab instance is one

replacing alioth is more than git (Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, setting up this gitlab thing is one thing, but moving away from alioth has this problem that we'll need to keep (svn|cvs|bzr|hg|...).debian.org as not only some packages workflows depend on it, but also parts of our own infrastructure. Does anyone has any idea how to do this in practice,

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Tue Jun 07, 2016 at 10:19:48 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > Another prerequisite for > >d.o > >hosting is that it runs on a DSA-managed machine. > > How do I get such a machine? Since Gitlab Inc, is sponsoring this > hosting, should we get a new machine and set it up as per DSA >

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" > model. For such a crucial service I would really prefer a real open source > system. But maybe I am alone with that oppinion. You are not alone, but

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:25:07AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > Thanks for the offer. It would be great if I have more hands to help with > migrating git.debian.org Whoah there. Running an official Debian gitlab instance is one thing, migrating git.debian.org is quite another. Did I miss where

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Christiaan de Die le Clercq
On 06/08/2016 10:39 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote: > On 8 June 2016 at 10:08, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >>> I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" >>> model. For such a crucial

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
On 8 June 2016 at 10:08, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" >> model. For such a crucial service I would really prefer a real open source >> system. But

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I am also not very keen on using a system with a "open core / enterprise" > model. For such a crucial service I would really prefer a real open source > system. But maybe I am alone with that oppinion. You're not alone. The open

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank wrote: > > [SN: trimmed Cc list, as this is about what Debian wants] > > > > Hi Alex > > > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 08:06:41PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > >> Its more things like: > >> -

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:07 AM, Bastian Blank wrote: > [SN: trimmed Cc list, as this is about what Debian wants] > > Hi Alex > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 08:06:41PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> Its more things like: >> - integration into alioth - aka, how easy is it to integrate the

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > Packaging gitlab itself took years and I believe I have the patience to > push through long and complex projects. Already some folks stepped up as > volunteers and I hope more will join in as people understand the > significance of making the workflow

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wednesday 08 June 2016 01:25 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Pirate Praveen > > Hi, > >> On 2016, ജൂൺ 6 10:37:25 PM IST, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >>> ]] Pirate Praveen >>> - setup gitlab.debian.net on jessie with my personal repo added. - how do I add a machine?

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Pirate Praveen dijo [Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 11:22:11PM +0530]: > Does gitolite allow merge requests? How easy it is for a new contributor > to use gitolite? I think the merge request workflow is really the key. Gitolite is a very lightweight way to manage access to a set of Git repositories to

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 21:37 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > it gets a bit too monolitic. This is the fundamental problem with all of the solutions in this space, including FusionForge, GitLab, GitHub, Savannah, SF.net etc. They are a bundle of services that should really be separate, which makes

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:26:43PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Pirate Praveen writes ("Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to > host free-software GitLab for Debian project)"): > > On Tuesday 07 June 2016 11:21 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > > Praveen, I think you could call this

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Pirate Praveen Hi, > On 2016, ജൂൺ 6 10:37:25 PM IST, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >]] Pirate Praveen > > > >> - setup gitlab.debian.net on jessie with my personal repo added. > >> - how do I add a machine? > > > >Read https://db.debian.org/doc-mail.html > > > >> - Do we have

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Bastian Blank
[SN: trimmed Cc list, as this is about what Debian wants] Hi Alex On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 08:06:41PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Its more things like: > - integration into alioth - aka, how easy is it to integrate the already > existing identity data (which we want to keep) into the system

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > On 2016, ജൂൺ 6 11:47:01 PM IST, Ean Schuessler wrote: > >We run GitLab on gitlab.brainfood.com and think it is really great. Let > >us > >know if there is some way we can help. > > Thanks for the offer. It would be great if

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > What would be wrong with "gitlab.debian.net" ? (Is gitlab a trademark > > that we should avoid in this context?) > > That was my first suggestion, but people wanted to avoid using tool names. It seems your goal is to provide a gitlab. Not a git

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Tuesday 07 June 2016 11:56 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Pirate Praveen writes ("Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to > host free-software GitLab for Debian project)"): >> On Tuesday 07 June 2016 11:21 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: >>> Praveen, I think you could call this new thing

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Pirate Praveen writes ("Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)"): > On Tuesday 07 June 2016 11:21 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > Praveen, I think you could call this new thing something like > > labs.debian.net. pkgs.debian.net (the

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Alexandre Viau
On 07/06/16 01:51 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Fair enough. One cannot plan to replace a service that is maintained by > someone else, specially when that someone still has plans to maintain it > _and_ disagrees with the replacement. git.debian.org is an important service widely used within the

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On Tuesday 07 June 2016 08:46 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday 07 June 2016 10:31 AM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:19:48AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Tuesday 07 June 2016 11:21 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > It seems to me that the above points means that a gitlab instance would > necessarily have to start outside of the official infrastructure. Agreed. That is is why I suggested gitlab.debian.net as first step. > I think the experiment is

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Tuesday 07 June 2016 08:46 PM, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> On Tuesday 07 June 2016 10:31 AM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:19:48AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: On 2016, ജൂൺ 6 10:37:25 PM IST, Tollef Fog Heen

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 05:16:09PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > On Tuesday 07 June 2016 10:31 AM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:19:48AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > >> On 2016, ജൂൺ 6 10:37:25 PM IST, Tollef Fog Heen

Re: Next steps for gitlab.debian (Re: GitLab B.V. to host free-software GitLab for Debian project)

2016-06-07 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On Tuesday 07 June 2016 10:31 AM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:19:48AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> On 2016, ജൂൺ 6 10:37:25 PM IST, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >>> Another prerequisite for d.o hosting is that

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