On 10/11/21 11:20 AM, Yadd wrote:
> For now:
>
> $ cat tags/s/source-contains-prebuilt-javascript-object.tag
> Tag: source-contains-prebuilt-javascript-object
> Severity: pedantic
> Check: cruft
> Explanation: The source tarball contains a prebuilt (minified)
>JavaScript object.
>
On 2021-10-11 11:20:03 +0200 (+0200), Yadd wrote:
[...]
> For now:
>
> $ cat tags/s/source-contains-prebuilt-javascript-object.tag
> Tag: source-contains-prebuilt-javascript-object
> Severity: pedantic
> Check: cruft
> Explanation: The source tarball contains a prebuilt (minified)
>
Le 10/10/2021 à 15:36, Kristian Nielsen a écrit :
> Julien Puydt writes:
>
>> There was the case years ago of the smarteiffel compiler. It was supposed
>> to be open source, but upstream only released C code. And that was bad,
>> because it wasn't what *they* worked with: they had eiffel
Julien Puydt writes:
> There was the case years ago of the smarteiffel compiler. It was supposed
> to be open source, but upstream only released C code. And that was bad,
> because it wasn't what *they* worked with: they had eiffel sources, and the
> C code was preprocessed and didn't
Quoting Julien Puydt (2021-10-10 14:34:34)
> Le sam. 9 oct. 2021 à 18:52, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> > Quoting Julien Puydt (2021-10-09 18:48:07)
> > > Le sam. 9 oct. 2021 à 17:40, Jeremy Stanley a
> > > écrit
> > > > On 2021-10-09 08:53:57 +0200 (+0200), Yadd wrote: [...]
> > > > > If you
Quoting Stephan Verbücheln (2021-10-10 14:03:51)
> On Sat, 2021-10-09 at 18:52 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > It is not source code.
> >
> > It is not binary code.
> >
> > It is not...
> >
> > The appropriate question is how it fits Debian Free Software
> > Guidelines.
>
> Programs with a
Hi
Le sam. 9 oct. 2021 à 18:52, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> Quoting Julien Puydt (2021-10-09 18:48:07)
> > Hi
> >
> > Le sam. 9 oct. 2021 à 17:40, Jeremy Stanley a écrit
> :
> >
> > > On 2021-10-09 08:53:57 +0200 (+0200), Yadd wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > If you really consider minified files
On Sat, 2021-10-09 at 18:52 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> It is not source code.
>
> It is not binary code.
>
> It is not...
>
> The appropriate question is how it fits Debian Free Software
> Guidelines.
Programs with a license on the one hand which demands the right to
study and modify the
Quoting Julien Puydt (2021-10-09 18:48:07)
> Hi
>
> Le sam. 9 oct. 2021 à 17:40, Jeremy Stanley a écrit :
>
> > On 2021-10-09 08:53:57 +0200 (+0200), Yadd wrote:
> > [...]
> > > If you really consider minified files as binary, there's a room
> > > for creating a lot of RC bugs
> >
> > The more
Hi
Le sam. 9 oct. 2021 à 17:40, Jeremy Stanley a écrit :
> On 2021-10-09 08:53:57 +0200 (+0200), Yadd wrote:
> [...]
> > If you really consider minified files as binary, there's a room for
> > creating a lot of RC bugs
>
> The more appropriate question is whether Debian considers minified
>
On 2021-10-09 08:53:57 +0200 (+0200), Yadd wrote:
[...]
> If you really consider minified files as binary, there's a room for
> creating a lot of RC bugs
The more appropriate question is whether Debian considers minified
files to be source code, or a compiled form. To needlessly quote
DFSG §2:
Le 08/10/2021 à 22:54, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
> On 10/8/21 10:20 AM, Yadd wrote:
>> Take a look, most of them embed a minified version (jquery* for example)
> Yeah ... Everyone upstream thinks it's ok to have 15907152438 copies of
> jquery floating around... There's room for improvement for
On 10/8/21 10:20 AM, Yadd wrote:
> Take a look, most of them embed a minified version (jquery* for example)
Yeah ... Everyone upstream thinks it's ok to have 15907152438 copies of
jquery floating around... There's room for improvement for sure! :)
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 10/8/21 7:51 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> Draft text for the GR (this is my first time proposing a GR text, so
> help is welcome to make the text clearer).
>
> We should not worry about minified files in main that are (a) only in
> the source package and not in any binary package, and (b) only
On 10/8/21 7:30 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>>> This is used only during tests. I don't think we are not gaining
>>> anything by removing tests here. Just making it harder for the
>>> package maintainer to run tests.
>>
>> You would not gain anything by removing tests, but you would win by
>>
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2021-10-08 19:51:44)
> Draft text for the GR (this is my first time proposing a GR text, so
> help is welcome to make the text clearer).
>
> We should not worry about minified files in main that are (a) only in
> the source package and not in any binary package, and (b)
Draft text for the GR (this is my first time proposing a GR text, so
help is welcome to make the text clearer).
We should not worry about minified files in main that are (a) only in
the source package and not in any binary package, and (b) only used to
run tests, not to build the binary
On വെ, ഒക്ടോ 8 2021 at 10:31:16 രാവിലെ +0200
+0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/7/21 11:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
On 7 October 2021 3:02:55 am IST, Thomas Goirand
wrote:
On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
[adding -devel]
On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200
On വ്യാ, ഒക്ടോ 7 2021 at 11:43:52 രാവിലെ
-0700 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
Right: It is ok to use upstream-provided pre-minified code, as long
as
that code is DFSG-free, which requires the source of that code must
exist in Debian.
...and because that is
On 10/7/21 11:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>
>
> On 7 October 2021 3:02:55 am IST, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>>> [adding -devel]
>>>
>>> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
>>> wrote:
Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06
Le 08/10/2021 à 10:18, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
> On 10/7/21 7:06 AM, Yadd wrote:
>> Le 06/10/2021 à 23:32, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
>>> On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
[adding -devel]
On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
wrote:
>
On 10/7/21 7:06 AM, Yadd wrote:
> Le 06/10/2021 à 23:32, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
>> On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>>> [adding -devel]
>>>
>>> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
>>> wrote:
Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
> On Lu, 04 oct 21,
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
> Right: It is ok to use upstream-provided pre-minified code, as long as
> that code is DFSG-free, which requires the source of that code must
> exist in Debian.
> ...and because that is often complicated to ensure (not because it
> violates DFSG in itself), it is
Quoting Richard Laager (2021-10-07 19:49:56)
> On 10/7/21 11:35 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Richard Laager writes:
> >
> >> I haven't looked into the specifics of this situation, but in
> >> general, tests should be run against the same versions of
> >> dependencies that the actual code will
On 10/7/21 11:35 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
Richard Laager writes:
I haven't looked into the specifics of this situation, but in general,
tests should be run against the same versions of dependencies that the
actual code will use, for what should be obvious reasons. If Debian has
the
Richard Laager writes:
> I haven't looked into the specifics of this situation, but in general,
> tests should be run against the same versions of dependencies that the
> actual code will use, for what should be obvious reasons. If Debian has
> the dependencies with different API versions, then
On 10/7/21 4:40 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
What you are proposing would require the package maintainer to adapt these
tests to versions available (many times with different API versions) in Debian
and the easier choice is disabling tests.
I haven't looked into the specifics of this situation,
* Pirate Praveen [211007 05:41]:
> On 7 October 2021 3:02:55 am IST, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> >On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> >> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
> On Lu, 04 oct 21,
Quoting Yadd (2021-10-07 07:06:42)
> Le 06/10/2021 à 23:32, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
>> On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>>> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
>>> wrote:
Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
> On Lu, 04 oct 21, 16:40:48, Bastien
On 7 October 2021 3:02:55 am IST, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>> [adding -devel]
>>
>> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
>> wrote:
>>> Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
On Lu, 04 oct 21, 16:40:48, Bastien Roucari�s
Le 06/10/2021 à 23:32, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
> On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>> [adding -devel]
>>
>> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
>> wrote:
>>> Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
On Lu, 04 oct 21, 16:40:48, Bastien Roucari�s wrote:
On 10/6/21 6:53 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> [adding -devel]
>
> On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard
> wrote:
>> Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
>>> On Lu, 04 oct 21, 16:40:48, Bastien Roucari�s wrote:
>>> > Source: src:node-lodash
>>> > Version:
[adding -devel]
On ബു, ഒക്ടോ 6 2021 at 12:16:07 വൈകു +0200 +0200,
Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Yadd (2021-10-06 11:43:40)
On Lu, 04 oct 21, 16:40:48, Bastien Roucari�s wrote:
> Source: src:node-lodash
> Version: 4.17.21+dfsg+~cs8.31.173-1
> Severity: serious
> Justification: do not
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