Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-08 Thread Tim Cutts
On 4 May 2005, at 6:39 pm, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 04:35:25PM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote: On 1 May 2005, at 8:53 am, Wouter Verhelst wrote: True. However, it does no harm to add the conflicts, while it does make it easier for your users. When presented with a bug in another

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-04 Thread Tim Cutts
On 1 May 2005, at 8:53 am, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:38:41AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 06:45:26PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: But you remove the package from testing doesn't mean we won't have users with it installed since it was

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 04:35:25PM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote: On 1 May 2005, at 8:53 am, Wouter Verhelst wrote: True. However, it does no harm to add the conflicts, while it does make it easier for your users. When presented with a bug in another package that completely breaks mine (rather than

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:38:41AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 06:45:26PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: But you remove the package from testing doesn't mean we won't have users with it installed since it was present there so, IMHO, the Conflict is

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:38:41AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 06:45:26PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: But you remove the package from testing doesn't mean we won't have users with it installed since it was present there so, IMHO, the Conflict is

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A Replaces without a Conflicts is I think always wrong. No, absolutely not. See policy, section 7.5, for details -- especially section 7.5.1. -- The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. This is a bug, though possibly not in the libwxgtk2.4-python package. If the relevant maintainers (libwxgtk2.4-python, wxpython2.5.3) and bug sumitters can't work out a

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A Replaces without a Conflicts is I think always wrong. No, absolutely not. See policy, section 7.5, for details -- especially section 7.5.1. Still leaves the following problem:

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-01 Thread Mowgli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Just some respoces: (There is several quotings from several people.) 1st the tecnical: Josselin Mouette: As I understand the issue, I have to agree with the maintainer: the conflict statement should be added in the wxwidgets 2.5 packages,

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-05-01 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:56:42AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A Replaces without a Conflicts is I think always wrong. No, absolutely not. See policy, section 7.5, for details -- especially section 7.5.1. Policy is

Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, this is a maybe bit OT mail to this List but I think as improoving the quality of debian is a bit toppic of the list. The problem is that I do not know how to handle with a bug. The maintainer of this bug is not in the mood to fix the bug he

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:30:38PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. having read through the bug report, it seems to me the appropriate thing to have done all along was add a Conflicts statement, which really does no harm and does resolve the issue. HOWEVER, that said,

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 30 avril 2005 à 15:06 -0400, sean finney a écrit : On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:30:38PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. having read through the bug report, it seems to me the appropriate thing to have done all along was add a Conflicts statement, which

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. It looks like the issue there (trying to quickly read through it) is if package libwxgtk2.4-python nedds to declare a Conflicts: with package wxpython2.5.3. The reason being that both provide a /usr/bin/helpviewer. First off, this is a tad bit

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
(reply to public mail sent to d-devel). On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Klaus Ethgen wrote: The problem is that I do not know how to handle with a bug. The maintainer of this bug is not in the mood to fix the bug he rather slight the submitters (not only me) in the bugreport and also by private mail.

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, sean finney wrote: having read through the bug report, it seems to me the appropriate thing to have done all along was add a Conflicts statement, which really does no harm and does resolve the issue. Wrong. The other package has a broken replaces header, without the

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 04:36:29PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Wrong. The other package has a broken replaces header, without the required conflicts header it needs to have. yeah, looks like i was. that said, the rest of my response (this should be forwarded to the tech

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Adam M.
Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. This is a bug, though possibly not in the libwxgtk2.4-python package. If the relevant maintainers (libwxgtk2.4-python, wxpython2.5.3) and bug sumitters can't work out a solution, then ask the Technical

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. It looks like the issue there (trying to quickly read through it) is if package libwxgtk2.4-python nedds to declare a Conflicts: with package wxpython2.5.3. The reason being that both provide a

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 03:06:31PM -0400, sean finney wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:30:38PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. having read through the bug report, it seems to me the appropriate thing to have done all along was add a Conflicts statement, which really

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Otavio Salvador
steve == Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: steve On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 03:06:31PM -0400, sean finney steve wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:30:38PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: The according bug is #306608. having read through the bug report, it seems to me the

Re: Outrageous Maintainer

2005-04-30 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 06:45:26PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: But you remove the package from testing doesn't mean we won't have users with it installed since it was present there so, IMHO, the Conflict is need. The bug is in the other package, packages are not required to work