Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jari, AFAIK is this already done with debtags. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-02-21 02:45:12, schrieb Kevin Mark: Hi, would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? would it allow for reducing package size by removing license text from all packages and having them installed in a seperate essential package stored in a

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kevin Mark] would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, as I understand it - they double-check the copyright and license declarations in the source code. would it allow for

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Kevin Mark] would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like that, as I understand it - they double-check the copyright

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 03:54 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:35:52AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Kevin Mark] would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I doubt it. They don't take the maintainer's word for stuff like

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:45:12AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: [License field] In other words, it seems like a lot of work, and it's not clear what problem it would really solve. Hi, would it provide any automation or easier

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Note that there was a discussion using debtags for license information on debtags-devel/debian-legal. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00016.html is a good starting point. Personally I believe, that if such an information should be available, debtags is more suitable to express

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Jari Aalto wrote: To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of /usr/share/doc/package/copyright Yes. Add new field to the debian/control (which would be

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? Nope. -- bye Joerg Naturally; worms that don't know what they are doing end up as fish bait, instead of getting invited into weird math experiments. --

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect debian/copyright files (more than for technical reasons) shows that it is

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tagged standard licenses would get processed faster and others would be in a

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:40:33AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? Yes. And the big number of rejects due to incorrect

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least think you could create a sub-queue in NEW so that already tagged

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to have it under a different license then the last 99 uploads. And if there was a license change, you could

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: You mean they check ever single time $RANDOM_PACKAGE enter NEW and don't assume its correct until someone raises an objections? I'd at least

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 11:01:07AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: I understand the general idea of a DFSG-free license but, for example, if Clint uploads yet another zsh package bugfix, I'm not expecting him to have it under a different license then

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi Thomas, as I just wrote to Joerge, I am not refering to the initial upload of a brand-new package

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:17:56AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:10:27PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:58:07AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi Thomas, as I just wrote to Joerge, I

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the license specified in debian/copyright is the license actually used by the source, and

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:34:22AM +, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 02:45 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: would it provide any automation or easier processing for the NEW queue(ftpmasters)? I'd assume part of the FTP masters checking is actually verifying the license specified in

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10572 March 1977, Kevin Mark wrote: Only packages in NEW are checked, not every little bugfix upload. :) I probably need one of these two at the moment: 1) sleep 2) caffine so I mis-stated what NEW entails. It deals with initial uploads and other situations(at least new upstream and other

PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Jari Aalto
To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of /usr/share/doc/package/copyright It would be better if user could use the packaging search commands, like grep-dctrl -F License ...

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of /usr/share/doc/package/copyright It would be better if user could use the packaging search

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-21 08:01]: To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of /usr/share/doc/package/copyright That information can also be obtained from

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To my understanding the only way to obtain the license information for a package is to actually download it (or install it) and the study the content of