Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Joey Hess wrote: I dunno, but I am working on expanding uqm-content's 6 lines to something more appropriate to its number of files (11.5 thousand). Maybe .. 600 lines? Now I'm really glad uqm-voice (100+ mb) is not going into the archive anytime soon. I have more

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-26 Thread Joey Hess
Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Dan Jacobson may or may not have written... I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. I have here a 20K package. Should it have a 1/3-line description? I dunno, but I am

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:46:19AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Not all of it, but you can't object to duplicating a single sentence saying

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-25 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Not all of it, but you can't object to duplicating a single sentence saying what it is. When the sentence in question is the one that goes in the short description, and already

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:17:27PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Read mine sometime. (You'd be one of the first to do so!) -- G. Branden Robinson| You are not angry with people when Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:12:06AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Too bad. The two are not, should not, and should never be related. I wouldn't say they're strictly decorrelated.

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Jacobson
I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions.

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Jacobson
I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. The Packages file could very well be the source for decisions on what gets chosen or not for ones system.

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:29:23PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. File wishlist bugs with a patch for the long description then. Michael

Re: [devel] Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: [devel] Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description [Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:17:27PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]] I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Where are the statistics for that? You only gave

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread John Hasler
Dan Jacobson writes: I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. While extremely short descriptions might be a cause for concern regardless of the size of the package, I don't see why larger packages should need longer

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Stephen Frost
* Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was hoping large package developers would write longer descriptions. Too bad. The two are not, should not, and should never be related. Stephen pgpiYTdDuqfg2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Stephen Frost
* Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. The description is adequate. The size of the package has nothing to do with it. The Packages file could very well be the source

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:56:42AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Fellas, looking in the Packages files, some big packages have little descriptions, some little packages have big descriptions, and this package description went

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:56:03PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one source file which have package descriptions like libfoo-dev = dev files for libfoo, libfoo-doc = documention for libfoo, and libfoo = runtime files for foo

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:17:58PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one source file which have package descriptions like libfoo-dev = dev files for libfoo, libfoo-doc = documention for libfoo, and libfoo = runtime files for

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:41:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:17:58PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one source file which have package descriptions like libfoo-dev = dev files for libfoo,

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Not all of it, but you can't object to duplicating a single sentence saying what it is. When the sentence in question is the one that goes in the short description, and already fills the available

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:41:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:17:58PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: the worst culprits are usually sets of binary packages from the one source file which

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Jacobson
avg. bytes per description lines 66321.8 A Is that just a meaningless number, or is there actually a correlation A between package size and description length? Somebody with statistics experience might go further and see if little packages have big descriptions and visa versa etc. Anyway, one

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:07:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Anyway, one liner snob descriptions just have to go. $ apt-cache show emacs21 Description: The GNU Emacs editor GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting text editor. Oops, I see, it is self-documenting. that's actually a

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Dan Jacobson may or may not have written... I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. I have here a 20K package. Should it have a 1/3-line description? ;-) -- | Darren Salt | nr. Ashington, |

Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-23 Thread Dan Jacobson
Fellas, looking in the Packages files, some big packages have little descriptions, some little packages have big descriptions, but on the average, 11938 packages avg size 510963 avg description 7.70431 lines avg. bytes per description lines 66321.8 For instance, the prestigious emacs21 needs only

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-23 Thread Stephen Frost
* Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: For instance, the prestigious emacs21 needs only one line, as everybody who is anybody is supposed to know what it is all about. Yup. Don't see any problem with that either. Have a day. Stephen pgpQddrICotFS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-23 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote: Fellas, looking in the Packages files, some big packages have little descriptions, some little packages have big descriptions, but on the average, 11938 packages avg size 510963 avg description 7.70431 lines avg. bytes per description lines 66321.8

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:56:42AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Fellas, looking in the Packages files, some big packages have little descriptions, some little packages have big descriptions, and this package description went wee wee wee, all the way home. Why does this belong on debian-devel