Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Josselin, Am 10:00 2002-12-05 +0100 hat Josselin Mouette geschrieben: right, but isn't that what Pre-Depends is for? The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There is currently no way to ensure a package is installed at configuration time. This is

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-07 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:00:21AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 09:05, sean finney a écrit : right, but isn't that what Pre-Depends is for? The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There is currently no way to ensure a

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
Jesus Climent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:00:21AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 09:05, sean finney a écrit : right, but isn't that what Pre-Depends is for? The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Josselin, Am 10:00 2002-12-05 +0100 hat Josselin Mouette geschrieben: right, but isn't that what Pre-Depends is for? The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There is currently no way to ensure a package is installed at configuration time. This is

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 08:19:43PM +, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 10:00 2002-12-05 +0100 hat Josselin Mouette geschrieben: The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There is currently no way to ensure a package is installed at configuration time.

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, sean finney wrote: i agree. perhaps the X task should include these packages, and then Definitely. the xserver-xfree86 package can check for these, and if they exist, before I doubt this would help much. If I'm not missleaded the configure script is called before the

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 07:58:58AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, sean finney wrote: the xserver-xfree86 package can check for these, and if they exist, before I doubt this would help much. If I'm not missleaded the configure script is called before the files of packages are

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Michael Banck wrote: Maybe what we need are people who read package descriptions prior to install Debian picking it's users instead of users picking Debian. *t -- --- Tomas Pospisek SourcePole -

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi, On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:22:05AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here. It does kinda assume you know what you want your config

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 05/12/2002 à 09:05, sean finney a écrit : I doubt this would help much. If I'm not missleaded the configure script is called before the files of packages are installed. Thus I'm not really sure whether there is access to the tools which are needed if they are installed all at the

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Amir Bukhari
After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian installation process ;-) .

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 23:50, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:42:43PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. Now explain that to my mother! :p [snip] Maybe what we want is a meta-package

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Ablassmeier
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:44:08AM +0100, Othmar Pasteka wrote: it's not userfriendly? that's the whole point of it actually. and X based GUIs are way nicer than text based GUIs. and it's also not userfriendly to go and say go read the package descriptions. Shure its userfriendly, but does

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Amir Bukhari
Amir Bukhari wrote: Michael Ablassmeier wrote: If i have to decide between nice graphical installer, and a nice Dialog Setup, i will prefer the Dialg Setup ! but Xconfigurator has also Dialog setup. I have compiled it and it has found my Graphic Card and my Monitor frequency, but I should

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:44:08AM +0100, Othmar Pasteka wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. it's not userfriendly? that's the whole point of it actually. and X based GUIs are way nicer than text based GUIs. Didn't we have graphical debconf

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian installation process ;-) . I don't want to discourage you from porting

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Scott James Remnant | These aren't included in the X window system task... Given that's | how most users (most notably the non-technical who would benefit | from them) install X - should these be added to that? This is already taken care of for the next revision of b-f, AIUI. -- Tollef Fog

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Matthew McGuire
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:04:00PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:14:18AM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: After all I have readed in reply of my Post, I have understand, that I can begin Porting this program to debian, and I see if it could be integreted to debian

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:20:30AM +, David Goodenough [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Not only will most people only read the top level package description, i.e. x-window-system, but if they are using apt-get the suggested pacakged are not even offered as an option. Perhaps apt-get

Smarter preconfiguration (Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!)

2002-12-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:00:21AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: The configure script is usually launched before the Pre-Depends are even installed. There is currently no way to ensure a package is installed at configuration time. A non-essential package, anyway. Essential is probably

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Otto Wyss
Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. mdetect hopefully doesn't choke on an USB-mouse anymore! O. Wyss

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-05 Thread Joey Hess
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Scott James Remnant | These aren't included in the X window system task... Given that's | how most users (most notably the non-technical who would benefit | from them) install X - should these be added to that? This is already taken care of for the next revision

Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Amir Bukhari
Hi, I plan to port Xconfigurator from Redhat to Debian, if that will help debian to be more simple in installation. I have search in Internet, if some did that, or there is another tools already work on debian, but I have not found any! If you know one. That mean there is no need to port this

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:53:46PM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: I have search in Internet, if some did that, or there is another tools already work on debian, but I have not found any! If you know one. That mean there is no need to port this package. Dunno how you feel about this, but

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:00, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:53:46PM +0100, Amir Bukhari wrote: I have search in Internet, if some did that, or there is another tools already work on debian, but I have not found any! If you know one. That mean there is no need to port

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here. It does kinda assume you know what you want your config file to look like, asking you about drivers and so-forth. Install

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:22, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here. It does kinda assume you know what you want your config file to look

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:27:07PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:22, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works quite fine here.

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:42:43PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. Now explain that to my mother! :p [snip] Maybe what we want is a meta-package that depends on discover, read_edid, and mdetect. Maybe what we

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:27:07PM +, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:22, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:50, Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:42:43PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: Install discover, read-edid and mdetect before you install X, and you're set. Now explain that to my mother! :p [snip] Maybe what we want is a meta-package that

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:03:31AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: These aren't included in the X window system task... Given that's how most users (most notably the non-technical who would benefit from them) install X - should these be added to that? i agree. perhaps the X task should