Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Stefan Fritsch s...@debian.org wrote: On Monday 20 August 2012, Ondřej Surý wrote: Ah, I see; it gets executed when there is no know handler or mime-type for second extension. E.g. index.php.jpeg works as expected (e.g. returning PHP source code),

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
Default PHP extension configuration ^^^ This needs Apache 2, e.g. Default PHP extension configuration for Apache 2. --- The mime-types package has dropped non-standard definitions of PHP MIME-Types as a security measure. Default PHP configuration for

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Konstantin Khomoutov flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 09:07:59AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: [...] Maybe add just a small paragraph that the configuration of the extensions has changed and php users should read the NEWS file?

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 09:07:59AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: [...] Maybe add just a small paragraph that the configuration of the extensions has changed and php users should read the NEWS file? That's probably sensible approach. I have quickly drafted short paragraph which can be used for

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 03:12:14PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: On 20/08/12 14:35, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:10:57PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Yes it's possible some people rely on that behaviour, e.g. serving JPEG data from PHP scripts named like

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 06:40:54PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 20, Wouter Verhelst w...@uter.be wrote: But some sites accept file uploads with arbitrary names, perhaps expected to be a JPEG image, but actually named bar.php.jpeg and containing malicious server-side PHP which they

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:48:37 +0200 Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org wrote: [...] The mime-types package has dropped non-standard definitions of PHP MIME-Types as a security measure. Default PHP configuration for libapache2-mod-php5{filter} and php5-cgi now only serve files which have .php,

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-21 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:07 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: Maybe add just a small paragraph that the configuration of the extensions has changed and php users should read the NEWS file? That's probably sensible approach. I have quickly drafted short paragraph which can be used for release

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:17:26AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: - In Squeeze, using default configurations, files with .php in their name such as foo.php.jpeg are executed as PHP scripts by the Apache web servers runing PHP scripts through php5-cgi. Maybe that's because it's expected

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 20/08/12 08:02, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:17:26AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: - In Squeeze, using default configurations, files with .php in their name such as foo.php.jpeg are executed as PHP scripts by the Apache web servers runing PHP scripts through

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi all, [multiple messages from d-d and d-r merged together] I am also concerned that a *simple* solution to restore the old behaviour in a secure way is not provided: maybe php5-cgi should install a sensible default configuration in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ ? I have prepared new update for PHP

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:58:42AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But if anyone would lobby that (release goal: default to CGI/FCGI), they'd have definitely my support :) A bit late for wheezy, do you mean for +1? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:57:10PM +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit : I have prepared new update for PHP based on comments from d-d. The commit is here: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php.git;a=commit;h=72eef08994f65b227103509617652d7c0bf0587a Hi Ondřej, many thanks for this work.

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:10:57PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: On 20/08/12 08:02, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:17:26AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: - In Squeeze, using default configurations, files with .php in their name such as foo.php.jpeg are executed as

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Charles, did you test that or you base that claim on Christoph's mails? I have just tested both php5-cgi in standard configuration as recommended in README.Debian and this claim doesn't seem to be true: $ wget -q -O -

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 20/08/12 14:35, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:10:57PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Yes it's possible some people rely on that behaviour, e.g. serving JPEG data from PHP scripts named like foo.php.jpeg. Sorry, I was wrong. For extensions like .jpeg with a known MIME

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 20, Wouter Verhelst w...@uter.be wrote: But some sites accept file uploads with arbitrary names, perhaps expected to be a JPEG image, but actually named bar.php.jpeg and containing malicious server-side PHP which they could execute from the browser. Don't Do That Then(TM). I see

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Monday 20 August 2012, Ondřej Surý wrote: Ah, I see; it gets executed when there is no know handler or mime-type for second extension. E.g. index.php.jpeg works as expected (e.g. returning PHP source code), index.php.blubb but gets executed. I don't think there's any harm in disabling

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 09:02 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Maybe that's because it's expected they would be PHP scripts emitting JPEG files, not plain JPEG files? This seems like a feature to me, not a bug. Why was support for that removed? I think that's really wrong style then... Content

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 14:06 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:58:42AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But if anyone would lobby that (release goal: default to CGI/FCGI), they'd have definitely my support :) A bit late for wheezy, do you mean for +1? Yeah,... of

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi Ondřej. On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 14:57 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php.git;a=commit;h=72eef08994f65b227103509617652d7c0bf0587a - You mention in the README.Debian now, that no other webserver likely used /etc/mime.types. Wasn't there someone who meant

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org (19/08/2012): This will interrupt upgrade of servers using php5-cgi, but to avoid surprises, the rough consensus in #674089 is also to document the same information in the release notes. I guess we could consider that for a very specific, low-popcon package.

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-19 at 11:17am, Charles Plessy wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the Popularity

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: In summary: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Roger Lynn
On 19/08/12 03:20, Charles Plessy wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the Popularity Contest

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 19, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still This is another issue which concerns me, since mod_php forces the use of preforking apache,

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 12:43 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: I guess we could consider that for a very specific, low-popcon package. But knowingly interrupting upgrades for a well-known problem, on a very high number of systems? I'm not sure that's appropriate. Quite the opposite, actually. I

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 17:26 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: FWiW, out of the ~7'500 popcon hits of regular use of php5-cgi, ~900 also regularly uses suphp, so might be unaffected by this issue. mights are not something we should build our security upon. And apart from that... I had a very short

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 18:16 +0100, Roger Lynn wrote: How does this affect other web servers? There was someone mentioning that lighthtttp may use /etc/mime.types, too. So yes, basically anything (though I guess security critical things should only be found at webservers, as they typically serve

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey Russ, Marco. On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 22:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the Popularity Contest statistics. Yes, because sensible people who need PHP will try to use it as CGI/FastCGI (or FPM, finally in

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 22:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: I am also concerned that a *simple* solution to restore the old behaviour in a secure way is not provided: maybe php5-cgi should install a sensible default configuration in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ ? Again, I don't think this saves us from

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 19, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still This is another issue which concerns me, since

Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear release team and developer community, due to changes in the mime-support package, upgrade of systems serving PHP websites through CGI will not be automatic. There is http://bugs.debian.org/674089 (critical) where the issue is discussed, and I would like to reassign it to the release notes.