Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-12 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:28:54AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Indeed. A dependency may also mean that the package is a binary extension module for the Python interpreter which will be linked dynamically with the interpreter (at some time, when the module is imported). In this case, if

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-08 Thread Jürgen A. Erhard
Gregor == Gregor Hoffleit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Gregor 1) Ignore Python 1.6 and up, as long as the license is not compatible Gregorwith the GPL. That's probably the easiest way to go, but is it Gregorjustified ? Looks like a deliberate discrimination against a

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 10:47:01AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: I don't see us making this kind of check for code written in perl, or code wirtten in C, or any other language. Perl is available under two licenses: GPL + Artistic. Not much room for a reasonable person to introduce conflict there. C

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-08 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 10:47:01AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Still, if 1.6 were to replace 1.5.2, we had to check all packages that depend on Python, if we think their license is still compatible with the new Python license, and remove them if it's not. I'd opt

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-08 Thread Richard Stallman
Someone wrote this: I am disappointed that RMS is fighting over something as trivial as a company asking that legal issues be settled in their home state (country). This is common practice. I am not fighting, I am pointing out the situation as it exists. I don't believe the CNRI

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-07 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:37:17AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: 1) Ignore Python 1.6 and up, as long as the license is not compatible with the GPL. That's probably the easiest way to go, but is it justified ? Looks like a deliberate discrimination against a DFSG-free license,

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:37:17AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I think that we are going to see more and more cases of GPL incompatibilities as time goes on. Agreed; although market forces are driving many software development houses towards Open Source, they're still trying to squirm

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-07 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:49:20PM +0400, Alexey Vyskubov wrote: Pyhton 2.0 is released already. And it doesn't seems that 2.0 solve the license incompatibility... It's not a stable release. bye Christian -- Christian Surchi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] FLUG:

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:50:07PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:37:17AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I am disappointed that RMS is fighting over something as trivial as a company asking that legal issues be settled in their home state (country). This is

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-07 Thread Joey Hess
Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Still, if 1.6 were to replace 1.5.2, we had to check all packages that depend on Python, if we think their license is still compatible with the new Python license, and remove them if it's not. I'd opt against this. Hm, I'm confused. Are you saying that you think that

Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Python 1.6 was released finally today (for an announcement, see http://www.python.org/1.6/), and it was released under the discussed CNRI license. This license was intended to be compatible with the GPL, but RMS says he thinks it's not (cf. the announcement). Moments later, Guido and BeOpen's

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:43:21AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Still, if 1.6 were to replace 1.5.2, we had to check all packages that depend on Python, if we think their license is still compatible with the new Python license, and remove them if it's not. I'd opt against this. Yup, that

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Andreas Voegele
Gregor Hoffleit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Python 1.6 was released finally today (for an announcement, see http://www.python.org/1.6/), and it was released under the discussed CNRI license. This license was intended to be compatible with the GPL, but RMS says he thinks it's not

RE: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
1) Ignore Python 1.6 and up, as long as the license is not compatible with the GPL. That's probably the easiest way to go, but is it justified ? Looks like a deliberate discrimination against a DFSG-free license, only because it's not GPL compatible. 2) Include both Python 1.5.2

Re: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
Python 1.5 I wouldn't put two Python versions into Debian. Also Python 2.0 will probably be released before the next code freeze and solve the license issues. Pyhton 2.0 is released already. And it doesn't seems that 2.0 solve the license incompatibility... Am I wrong? I hope I am... :( --