On Tue, 2023-10-24 at 05:40 +, Tobias Frost wrote:
> Am 24. Oktober 2023 03:43:29 UTC schrieb Paul Wise:
>
> > BTW: as a Debian member, you have access to a gratis subscription:
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#LWN
>
> AFAIK this is no longer available.
I am still using the
Am 24. Oktober 2023 03:43:29 UTC schrieb Paul Wise :
>BTW: as a Debian member, you have access to a gratis subscription:
>
>https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#LWN
AFAIK this is no longer available.
Hi Jon,
At 2023-10-23T17:24:30-0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> When I wrote the article (last week) it was a lot closer :)
>
> As for why: Debian may have resolved this, for now at least, but this
> is an issue that is sure to crop up in distributions that are not as
> quick to pick up new groff
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 11:17 -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/947941/
>
> Would someone be willing to send me a subscriber-sponsored link to it?
BTW: as a Debian member, you have access to a gratis subscription:
https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#LWN
--
bye,
"G. Branden Robinson" writes:
> I am disappointed that LWN did not cover the groff 1.23.0 release, its
> first in four years and featuring over 400 bug fixes,[1] even as a tiny
> blurb on the back page, but seizes upon this issue, which quietly died
> down a week ago, and should therefore have
At 2023-10-23T11:17:07-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Would someone be willing to send me a subscriber-sponsored link to it?
Thanks to the three fleet-fingered folks who supplied me with one. I am
amply equipped to resume my crusade against ignorance and
misinformation...except...
Now that
At 2023-10-14T20:51:27-0600, Antonio Russo wrote:
> I discovered a new pet peeve today:
I must report with some dismay that this thread made LWN.
https://lwn.net/Articles/947941/
Would someone be willing to send me a subscriber-sponsored link to it?
I intend to attempt to address what I expect
At 2023-10-15T10:01:20-0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I think my position at this point as pod2man maintainer (not yet
> implemented in podlators) is that every occurrence of - in POD source
> will be translated into \-, rather than using the current heuristics,
> and people who meant to use ‐ should
On 15/10/23 19:13, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote:
Quoting Gioele Barabucci (2023-10-15 17:59:32)
On 15/10/23 17:33, Iustin Pop wrote:
At least you're not lazy. I am, so what I did many times is add a
build-depends on pandoc, and write the man page in rst or md. I think
that's a worse
Minor point, but since you posted it
"G. Branden Robinson" writes:
> ...
> \- Minus sign or basic Latin hyphen‐minus. \- produces the
> Unix command‐line option dash in the output. “-” is a
> hyphen in the roff language; some output devices replace it
>
Hi Wookey,
At 2023-10-15T16:08:32+0100, Wookey wrote:
> OK. So I read all that, and learned a whole load of stuff I was quite
> happy not knowing about.
>
> However despite reading it all, and especially this bit:
> > Whenever I've maintained man pages in roff I tend to be precise in
> > the
Hi,
Quoting Gioele Barabucci (2023-10-15 17:59:32)
> On 15/10/23 17:33, Iustin Pop wrote:
> > At least you're not lazy. I am, so what I did many times is add a
> > build-depends on pandoc, and write the man page in rst or md. I think
> > that's a worse solution (pandoc is really heavy), but at
Wookey writes:
> I was left not actually know what - and \- represent, nor which one I
> _should_ be using in my man pages. And that seems to be the one thing we
> should be telling the 'average maintainer'.
- turns into a real hyphen (, U+2010). \- turns into the ASCII
hyphen-minus that we
On 15/10/23 17:33, Iustin Pop wrote:
At least you're not lazy. I am, so what I did many times is add a
build-depends on pandoc, and write the man page in rst or md. I think
that's a worse solution (pandoc is really heavy), but at least, I don't
have to go back to *roff.
Another option for the
On 2023-10-15 Wookey wrote:
[...]
> OK. So I read all that, and learned a whole load of stuff I was quite
> happy not knowing about.
> However despite reading it all, and especially this bit:
> "Whenever I've maintained man pages in roff I tend to be precise in
> > the usage of - and \-, but TBH
On 2023-10-15 16:08:32, Wookey wrote:
> I think you can consider me representative of the typical maintainer
> who's intereaction with *roff languages almost entirely takes the
> form: 'Oh bloody hell I really ought to write a man page for this
> because upstream is too youthful to have done so -
On 2023-10-15 01:30 -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2023-10-14T20:51:27-0600, Antonio Russo wrote:
>
> Quick background: in the context of Unix usage as documented by
> nroff/troff, the dash used at the shell prompt, in text editors, and in
> programming language source code is a "minus
At 2023-10-14T20:51:27-0600, Antonio Russo wrote:
> I discovered a new pet peeve today: if you search for a command in a
> manual page, say -e in man 1 zgrep, it's a crapshot whether just
> searching for '-e' will find the command or not. The reason is that
> "-" may been accidentally encoded as
Hi Antonio,
this is discussed in:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1052675
Cheers Jochen
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