On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 07:59:32PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
This is one of the reasons why I find working on debtags for my packages
rather unrewarding. I have no real indication that the decisions I'm
making about what tags make sense have much in common with the decisions
everyone else
Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org writes:
What I intend to do is to form subcommittees by broad topics: The Gnome
Guys, The KDE Guys, The Web Developers, The Photographers and so
on. Or People who take care of tag X.
Such groups should have the ultimate say on a set of tags, including
On mer, 2009-01-07 at 10:56 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If we are talking about changing the aptitude interface, may I
request that there should be attention paid to the different needs of
searching/selecting versus browsing? And that browsing is still a valid
activity (because of the
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 09:34 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
Hi!
I have been wondering over the last months about Section: kde.
What is the correct usage of this section?
..
I have tried to summarised some of the ideas of this thread in
http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny/Sections
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 09:34 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
Hi!
I have been wondering over the last months about Section: kde.
What is the correct usage of this section?
..
I have tried to summarised some of the ideas of this thread in
http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny/Sections
OK, establishing that we are not going to get rid of the sections in the
near future, what are people's thoughts on enhancing the definition of
them slightly?
At present, the archive maintainers are responsible for defining them
and the list is kept in the policy document (2.4). Note that this
Jon Dowland jon+debian-de...@alcopop.org writes:
At present, the archive maintainers are responsible for defining them
and the list is kept in the policy document (2.4). Note that this list
is only their names.
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ includes english text
descriptions of the
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:00:13AM +0900, Paul Wise wrote:
Personally I'm not sure what the reason sections were introduced,
I assume it was because from a flat FTP hierachy it was not very easy to
tell what kind of purpose a particular .deb had back in 1993.
Michael
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Le January 7, 2009 02:32:24 am Joerg Jaspert, vous avez écrit :
I don't remember using sections in over 4 years of Debian usage, though
I had already used GNU/Linux for a few months before I switched to
Debian. But I doubt even a user new to GNU/Linux would use them much.
Everyone that
IMO, it would make sense to merge Debian sections into a debtags facet
so that you can have multiple sections when it makes sense. The facet
could still be controlled by ftpmasters if that was desired.
I don't understand why you suggest creating a debtags facet replacing
sections, except if you
Le Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:02:23PM -0500, Filipus Klutiero a écrit :
I don't understand why you suggest creating a debtags facet replacing
sections, except if you plan to give exclusive control on it to the
archive maintenance team as opposed to the rest of the tags.
Hi Filipus and all
Le January 8, 2009 05:50:02 pm Charles Plessy, vous avez écrit :
Le Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:02:23PM -0500, Filipus Klutiero a écrit :
I don't understand why you suggest creating a debtags facet replacing
sections, except if you plan to give exclusive control on it to the
archive maintenance
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
now that the base section has been removed (Policy 3.8.0.0), is it
still necessary to override the management of the Section field instead
of simply trusting the maintainers?
The maintainers are really bad at it? lintian.d.o alas has a ton of
evidence
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 07:09:48PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
The maintainers are really bad at it? lintian.d.o alas has a ton of
evidence of this, even for the very easy cases. Consider:
http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dev-package-should-be-section-libdevel.html
Clint Adams sch...@debian.org writes:
That's not really a fair comparison; libdevel, perl, and python, are
relatively new sections that the ftpmasters added unilaterally, and doc
has been used inconsistently by the ftpteam in the past. There is also
minimal motivation (at least for me) to
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I don't remember using sections in over 4 years of Debian usage, though
I had already used GNU/Linux for a few months before I switched to
Debian. But I doubt even a user new to GNU/Linux would use them much.
Everyone that uses a tool like
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 08:32:24AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org was
heard to say:
I don't remember using sections in over 4 years of Debian usage, though
I had already used GNU/Linux for a few months before I switched to
Debian. But I doubt even a user new to GNU/Linux would use
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:02:21AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I don't remember using sections in over 4 years of Debian usage, though
I had already used GNU/Linux for a few months before I switched to
Debian. But I doubt even a user
On Wed, Jan 07 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I don't remember using sections in over 4 years of Debian usage, though
I had already used GNU/Linux for a few months before I switched to
Debian. But I doubt even a user new to GNU/Linux would use them much.
Everyone that uses a tool like aptitude
IMO, it would make sense to merge Debian sections into a debtags facet
so that you can have multiple sections when it makes sense. The facet
could still be controlled by ftpmasters if that was desired. And aptitude
could use that facet to keep a logical tree but a package could then
appear
http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/873ag1u2hv.fsf%40vorlon.ganneff.de
On ven, 2009-01-02 at 16:55 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I guess we actually need to consider what the sections are good for.
Asking in a random irc channel at least didn't reveal any real
answers.
So what about
I don't remember using sections in over 4 years of Debian usage, though
I had already used GNU/Linux for a few months before I switched to
Debian. But I doubt even a user new to GNU/Linux would use them much.
Everyone that uses a tool like aptitude does use them much. I guess
similar is true
Hey,
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:34:50 + (UTC) Sune Vuorela wrote:
I have been wondering over the last months about Section: kde.
What is the correct usage of this section?
Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
packages that links against kdelibs ?
Should a
On ven, 2009-01-02 at 16:55 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I guess we actually need to consider what the sections are good for.
Asking in a random irc channel at least didn't reveal any real
answers.
So what about killing the concept of sections entirely ?
Sure, if at some point a
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Evgeni Golov sarge...@die-welt.net wrote:
In my understanding otherosfs should be used for tools that are used
for reading or manipulating filesystems of other OS (like dosfstools
and mtools) - that isn't done by emulators directly (or at least the
user doesn't
Hi!
I have been wondering over the last months about Section: kde.
What is the correct usage of this section?
Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
packages that links against kdelibs ?
Should a game using kdelibs go to section:games or section:kde?
should a web
What is the correct usage of this section?
Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
packages that links against kdelibs ?
Should a game using kdelibs go to section:games or section:kde?
games.
should a web browser using kdelibs go to section:web or
On 2009-01-02, Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org wrote:
What is the correct usage of this section?
Is it for packages that is related to the desktop itself or is it for
packages that links against kdelibs ?
Should a game using kdelibs go to section:games or section:kde?
games.
should a web
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:43 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
I guess we actually need to consider what the sections are good for.
Asking in a random irc channel at least didn't reveal any real
answers.
So what about killing the concept of sections entirely ?
The primary user of section: is
I guess we actually need to consider what the sections are good for.
Asking in a random irc channel at least didn't reveal any real answers.
So what about killing the concept of sections entirely ?
Sure, if at some point a replacement is suitable and *well integrated*
into those Debian tools
Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 14:17 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
Is it usable without large parts of KDE installed? web. Does it need
lots of KDE? kde. (Where lots is debatable, but kdelibs, kicker, and
some of the central parts of it would probably be a good guess)
Using such criteria is
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