Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-08 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 8. Dezember 2023 18:56:00 MEZ schrieb Simon Josefsson : > >I think that is unfortunate and not sustainable over time: you need to >have access to the public keys to verify old signatures, and for as long >as the old signatures are published we should make a public keyring for >them easily

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Jonathan McDowell writes: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 11:07:38AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Judit Foglszinger writes: >> >> > Dmitri, could you re-run the numbers with the debian-maintainer >> >> > keyring? >> >> >> >> That is correct. I have updated the results now. The 2,455 no >> >>

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-12-06 Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: [...] > May I also do a mass bug file against the above set of packages, at > wishlist priority to nudge maintainers (or QA or Janitor) to make an > upload? > ideally bundled with any other reasonable modernisations. As such an > algorithm indicates that

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-06 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 at 00:20, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > Hi, > > Currently dak requires signatures on .changes & .dsc uploads. .changes with > signatures are publicly announced and then .dsc are published in the archive > with signatures. .changes references .dsc. > > All .dsc have

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-05 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 11:07:38AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Judit Foglszinger writes: > >> > Dmitri, could you re-run the numbers with the debian-maintainer > >> > keyring? > >> > >> That is correct. I have updated the results now. The 2,455 no > >> public key has now become 1,238 > > >

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-04 Thread Simon Josefsson
Judit Foglszinger writes: > Hi, > >> > Dmitri, could you re-run the numbers with the debian-maintainer keyring? >> >> That is correct. I have updated the results now. >> The 2,455 no public key has now become 1,238 > > Another is the DN keyring. > Also I'd expect many keys to be found in older

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Judit Foglszinger
Hi, > > Dmitri, could you re-run the numbers with the debian-maintainer keyring? > > That is correct. I have updated the results now. > The 2,455 no public key has now become 1,238 Another is the DN keyring. Also I'd expect many keys to be found in older versions of the keyring package/keyring

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 12:20:16AM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > And many of them cannot be verified using debian-keyring: > 2,455 no public key > 3 wrong key usage And how many can be verified? Do any show broken signatures? > Should we stop requiring signed .dsc on uploads? We had

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Hi, On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 at 10:50, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > Salvo Tomaselli writes: > > >> hi, on "no public key" list there are my uploads, I'm debian maintainer > >> (https://nm.debian.org/person/fantu/), I signed with my key and I have > >> DM upload right for them > >>

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Simon Josefsson
Salvo Tomaselli writes: >> hi, on "no public key" list there are my uploads, I'm debian maintainer >> (https://nm.debian.org/person/fantu/), I signed with my key and I have >> DM upload right for them >> (https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=fantonifabio%40tiscali.it) > > I think he just

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Fabio Fantoni
Il 01/12/2023 01:20, Dimitri John Ledkov ha scritto: Hi, Currently dak requires signatures on .changes & .dsc uploads. .changes with signatures are publicly announced and then .dsc are published in the archive with signatures. .changes references .dsc. All .dsc have Checksums-Sha256 for the

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-12-01 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
Also note that some of the listed packages are signed with 1024-bit DSA (Logjam attack), which would be more concerning if there were no additional release signatures. Regards Stephan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-11-30 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
Hello Dimitri On Fri, 2023-12-01 at 00:20 +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > This makes me wonder if signatures on uploaded or published .dsc have > any value at all. Cryptographically speaking, 160-bit hash algorithms are vulnerable to collision attacks but not to preimage attacks. Even today,

Re: Signature strength of .dsc

2023-11-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2023-12-01 at 00:20:16 +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Currently dak requires signatures on .changes & .dsc uploads. .changes with > signatures are publicly announced and then .dsc are published in the > archive with signatures. .changes references .dsc. > > All .dsc have

Signature strength of .dsc

2023-11-30 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Hi, Currently dak requires signatures on .changes & .dsc uploads. .changes with signatures are publicly announced and then .dsc are published in the archive with signatures. .changes references .dsc. All .dsc have Checksums-Sha256 for the files they reference, .dsc itself can be verified through