Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 12:21 AM, gwmfms6 wrote: > Paul, you seemed to indicate that you were able to set a different "user > default" umask in Stretch that's respected by gnome apps like gedit? No, I didn't indicate that. See my other reply for clarification. -- bye, pabs

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread gwmfms6
to the user what they are doing (ie, they are giving the world access to those particular files). On 2017-06-28 07:25, Ian Jackson wrote: Paul Wise writes ("Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?"): On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:11 AM, gwmfms6 wrote: > This discussion should be on w

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread gwmfms6
Paul, you seemed to indicate that you were able to set a different "user default" umask in Stretch that's respected by gnome apps like gedit? How did you do it? On 2017-06-28 09:21, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: The appropriate default umask is 002 if

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:59 PM, gwmfms6 wrote: > You didn't notice because you run umask from your shell configuration? I should clarify, I meant bash shell not gnome-shell. > In other words, you have a working umask in Stretch? In my terminals yes, but not in apps launched from the GUI. >

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread gwmfms6
You didn't notice because you run umask from your shell configuration? In other words, you have a working umask in Stretch? I want a working umask in stretch. Can you tell me how to "run `umask 027` from my shell configuration"? Currently, I have not found a way to get gnome to respect umask

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread gwmfms6
Setting umask in ~/.profile on Jessie works for me. On 2017-06-28 01:04, Arto Jantunen wrote: It doesn't work since pam_umask isn't run by default. However as far as I know this has been the case for a very long time (the oldest install I can check quickly is squeeze and it has the same

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > The appropriate default umask is 002 if the user's primary group is > named after the user, or 022 otherwise. AFAICT, neither of these achieve what the initiator of the thread wants to achieve; no read access by other users to one's files on

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?"): > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:11 AM, gwmfms6 wrote: > > This discussion should be on whether to set a default UMASK of 077 or 027. > > I think the appropriate default umask is 077 due to the possibility of > some

Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread gwmfms6
I'd like to know why giving the world (Other) read access is even under consideration. If user wants a file to have Other readability this should be on the user to set it, but it should not be the default. What is the justification that every user be able to read every other user's documents?

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 27.06.2017 19:11, gwmf...@openmailbox.org wrote: > I'd like to know why giving the world (Other) read access is even under > consideration. If user wants a file to have Other readability this > should be on the user to set it, but it should not be the default. That can be solved by

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-28 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Wise writes: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:11 AM, gwmfms6 wrote: > >> I'd like to know why giving the world (Other) read access is even under >> consideration. If user wants a file to have Other readability this should be >> on the user to set it, but it should not be the

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-27 Thread Arto Jantunen
Paul Wise writes: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:11 AM, gwmfms6 wrote: >> NOTE: this discussion is moot at the present time anyway because it is >> impossible to set a UMASK at all on Debian Stretch. None of the usual ways >> work within gnome on Debian Stretch. Can anyone comment

Re: Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:11 AM, gwmfms6 wrote: > I'd like to know why giving the world (Other) read access is even under > consideration. If user wants a file to have Other readability this should be > on the user to set it, but it should not be the default. I expect for most Debian

Subject: UMASK 002 or 022?

2017-06-27 Thread gwmfms6
I'd like to know why giving the world (Other) read access is even under consideration. If user wants a file to have Other readability this should be on the user to set it, but it should not be the default. What is the justification that every user be able to read everyone else's documents?