Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 01:01:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >[ Note Reply-To: set to d-devel ] > >Hey, > >For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst >installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch >that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:12:54PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 13:41:31 +, Holger Levsen > wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:38:29AM -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > >> Personally, I would only ever download a DVD image if I was on a *slow* > >>

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:39:42 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >I'll chime in to what others have said. I think DVD images should not >be the default/main download venue. Even though the careful package >ordering by (alleged?) popularity, I am sure a great deal of Debian >installs use

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 13:41:31 +, Holger Levsen wrote: >On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:38:29AM -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Personally, I would only ever download a DVD image if I was on a *slow* >> connection and knew that I had to install to multiple machines. > >still

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 06:43:46PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jun 2017, Adam Borowski wrote: > > No one installs i386 new -- machines that are non-amd64-capable are: > > * mainstream machines from 2004 and earlier > > That date is incorrect. I can't give you a precise

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Michael Lustfield
I'll chime in to what others have said. I think DVD images should not be the default/main download venue. Even though the careful package ordering by (alleged?) popularity, I am sure a great deal of Debian installs use under half of the packages provided by the first DVD (and many that are not

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 06:43:46PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jun 2017, Adam Borowski wrote: > > No one installs i386 new -- machines that are non-amd64-capable are: > > * mainstream machines from 2004 and earlier > > That date is incorrect. I can't give you a precise

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
> [ Note Reply-To: set to d-devel ] (answering only to said list) > Hey, Hiya, > For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst > installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch > that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the >

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Jun 2017, Adam Borowski wrote: > No one installs i386 new -- machines that are non-amd64-capable are: > * mainstream machines from 2004 and earlier That date is incorrect. I can't give you a precise date, but the Thinkpad T43 with a 32-bit Centrino Pentium-M was **launched** in

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 06, Steve McIntyre wrote: > For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst > installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch > that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the > machines out there are now

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 01:01:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst > installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch > that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the > machines out there

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 09:38:29AM -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Personally, I would only ever download a DVD image if I was on a *slow* > connection and knew that I had to install to multiple machines. still then, I would rather use netinst plus a proxy… -- cheers, Holger

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jun 06 2017, Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'm *also* tempted to switch from the netinst to the first DVD image > instead - network connections have improved a lot. Why is that relevant? Is installing+downloading the DVD image faster than downloading netint + installing from

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Colin Tuckley
On 06/06/17 13:01, Steve McIntyre wrote: > For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst > installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch > that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. Seems sensible. > I'm *also* tempted to switch from the netinst

Re: Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst > installer image from the front page. Seems reasonable, perhaps with a small link for other options. > I'm *also* tempted to switch from the netinst to the first DVD

Switch default installation image link?

2017-06-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Note Reply-To: set to d-devel ] Hey, For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the machines out there are now amd64, and we're