Re: glibc 2.1 (test release 2.0.98) for i386 (was: Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!)

1998-10-19 Thread Joel Klecker
At 11:29 -0700 1998-10-17, Matt McLean wrote: The most obvious one is that not every architecture has an 'egcc', because egcs is the main compiler. So, we shouldn't be setting $CC. That is not correct, the latest egcs packages provide a 'egcc' symlink on every architecture. -- Joel Klecker (aka

glibc 2.1 (test release 2.0.98) for i386 (was: Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!)

1998-10-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 21:19 +0200 1998-10-10, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 09, J.H.M. Dassen Ray\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a lot of packages. IIRC, libc6 doesn't support IPv6; you need a beta version for that. So this is only an

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-13 Thread Santiago Vila
On 11 Oct 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago Well, kernel-package is a single package but it would be surely Santiago a lot of work, since there are a lot of new drivers. What does not work for you using kernel-package on newer kernels? I have never had a problem, so far, all

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Santiago == Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Santiago Well, kernel-package is a single package but it would be surely Santiago a lot of work, since there are a lot of new drivers. What does not work for you using kernel-package on newer kernels? I have never had a problem,

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:11:10PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: No, this would hold the release for at least two more months. Joey, that's exaggerated by a lot. But I agree with your reasoning- I agree with Joey completely,

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Avery Pennarun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Slink is a badly-needed cleanup release. Don't hold it back for any package. What needs to be cleaned up? Hamm's running fine here. Slink definately adds value, but I don't think it's something we desperately need _now_. Mike Stone

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Joel Klecker
At 13:13 +0200 1998-10-09, J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\) wrote: IIRC, libc6 doesn't support IPv6; you need a beta version for that. So this is only an issue if we intend to release one of the libc6.1 using ports. glibc 2.1 (2.0.9x until release) does not change the soname, symbol versioning prevents that

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Joel Klecker
At 21:19 +0200 1998-10-10, Marco d'Itri wrote: In the next weeks my site will go on the 6bone and I plan using debian for our IPv6 gateway box. Where can I find a libc6.1 for intel? Will the current netutils just work with IPv6 after recompiling or do I have to patch it? My glibc-pre2.1 packaging

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Buddha Buck
Quoting Avery Pennarun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Slink is a badly-needed cleanup release. Don't hold it back for any package. What needs to be cleaned up? Hamm's running fine here. Slink definately adds value, but I don't think it's something we desperately need _now_. What needs to be

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Buddha Buck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Quoting Avery Pennarun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Slink is a badly-needed cleanup release. Don't hold it back for any package. What needs to be cleaned up? Hamm's running fine here. Slink definately adds value, but I don't think it's something we

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 02:34:28PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting Avery Pennarun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Slink is a badly-needed cleanup release. Don't hold it back for any package. I still think that calling slink a badly needed cleanup implies that hamm is horribly broken. I

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 12:42:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen Ray wrote: I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with 2.1.x (which I suspect quite a few developers run). A little tiny line in

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Well, kernel-package is a single package but it would be surely a lot of work, since there are a lot of new drivers. It works like a charm with 2.1.x kernels. (Kudos to Manoj!)

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-10 Thread Marc Singer
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:09:56PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 12:42:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen Ray wrote: I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:28:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: various compilation of programs. I thought that was part of the idea of the glibc 2 header stuff.. Yes and no. There are some programs that depend on actual kernel headers. I agree with Joey, kernel 2.2 should not go as

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-10 Thread Russell Coker
Santiago There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled Santiago for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a lot of packages. But some cannot be ported at the moment: iBCS!

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 09, J.H.M. Dassen Ray\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a lot of packages. IIRC, libc6 doesn't support IPv6; you need a beta version for that. So this is only an issue if we intend to release one of the

The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink towards 2.2.0? Thanks. Zephaniah E, Hull.. pgpL2Z9IpY4sx.pgp Description: PGP

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:40:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the perl issues (see my last message) A bug report has been submitted to ftp.debian.org to put the previous version back, which means the perl issues need not be dealt with in the current development cycle. and the

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink towards 2.2.0? I don't think this

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Samuel Tardieu
Santiago == Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Santiago There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled Santiago for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a lot of packages.

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Samuel Tardieu
I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with 2.1.x (which I suspect quite a few developers run). I do run 2.1.124 on my laptop and am really impressed by this kernel. It uses less memory

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:20:34PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a lot of packages. IIRC, libc6 doesn't support IPv6; you need a beta version for that. So this is only an issue if we intend to release one of

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On 9 Oct 1998, Samuel Tardieu wrote: Santiago There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled Santiago for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a lot of packages. Well,

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 09 Oct 1998, J.H.M. Dassen Ray wrote: and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink towards 2.2.0? I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting J.H.M. Dassen Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with 2.1.x (which I suspect quite a few developers run). Things like smbfsx that have 2.0 and 2.1

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On 9 Oct 1998, Samuel Tardieu wrote: Santiago There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled Santiago for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 08:42:57AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting J.H.M. Dassen Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm not aware of any software in slink that must be updated to work with 2.2 properly (with the exception of pcmcia-cs); slink currently runs fine with 2.1.x (which I suspect quite

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Martin Schulze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink towards 2.2.0? No, this would hold the release for at

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread warp
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why I asked for another week to see IF we need to re-target, instead of asking for a re-target now.. Bogus argument. Kernels do not have a set release date, and 2.2 will take a couple of weeks, esp. since there will probably be a couple of pre2.2

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have to do that anyways for 2.0.36.. Only recompile, to work with 2.1 expect to fix a lot of code.. When did we get sound modules? With 2.2.0 we could actually have some!! shameless plug You did know we have alsa packages, right? And they even work with

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Linux 2.2 is a good candidate for the next unstable to play with. I believe that it will be fun, but I also forsee that there will be problems. I hope our release manager won't jump on that train too quick. Agreed. There are

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:18:46PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: I do run 2.1.124 on my laptop and am really impressed by this kernel. It uses less memory and runs smoother under heavy load than any kernel I've ever used. I have to agree. 124 is great on my notebook too. I'm just compiling 125.

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:40:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back a week to see if we should QUICKLY re-target slink towards 2.2.0?

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: No, this would hold the release for at least two more months. Joey, that's exaggerated by a lot. But I agree with your reasoning- . We have several kernel module package that need to be re-packaged. . We have to rework on the

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 01:20:34PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: Santiago There are a lot of packages that would have to be recompiled Santiago for Linux 2.2. This will take time and a lot of testing. I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is supported), but not a

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-09 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:06:30PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 06:40:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In light of the perl issues (see my last message) and the message Linus just sent off to linux-kernel about 2.1.125 and 2.2.0p1 could the freeze be pushed back