On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:21:09AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
Looking at the submission numbers from
URL:http://popcon.debian.org/, I am happy to report that the number
of Etch installations is increasing fast.
IMHO there are some ways we could track get some better
Josip Rodin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 6 May 2007 15:45:
Actually, it wouldn't be all that difficult. All we have to do is ask.
Ours is available if you're interested.
My point being,
just because it's on project-owned machines that doesn't necessarily mean
that we'll do a particularly
Josip Rodin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 6 May 2007 15:45:
Actually, it wouldn't be all that difficult. All we have to do is ask.
Ours is available if you're interested.
My point being,
just because it's on project-owned machines that doesn't necessarily
mean
that we'll do a
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:14:32AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
snip
This is the current architecture distribution.
2 0.01% i486
2 0.01% kfreebsd-amd64
3 0.01% hurd-i386
3 0.01% ppc64
7 0.02% armel
9 0.03% armeb
9 0.03% s390
9
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Presently the number of installations reported to popcon is about the
same as the number of subscriptions to debian-security-announce, but I
am sure there are many users of debian who don't read d-s-a and many
users, who have several -maybe
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:53:51 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Anyway, popularity-contest give us feedback on the package usage, and
even if the number of contributors do not match the number of installed
systems, it still give us valuable feedback on the relative package
usage. :)
BTW, is
[Johannes Wiedersich]
My point was, that popcon is not a good metric for the number of
installed systems, since it reports about the same number of systems
that we agree on being way too low.
I agree. It can be used as a lower bound, thought. It is unlikely
that there are fewer Debian
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Presently the number of installations reported to popcon is about the
same as the number of subscriptions to debian-security-announce, but I
am sure there are many users of debian who don't read d-s-a and many
users, who have several -maybe hundreds- of installations
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:35:50PM +0200, Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:32 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial
numbers.
* Ron Johnson:
On 04/12/07 15:14, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Ron Johnson:
On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
[snip]
You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for lm in
flags.
Does lahf_lm count?
The file should also list lm earlier on the same line.
Oh well, I guess
Hi!
* Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070413 00:27]:
The only caveat I can think of (but there might be others) is that it would
not be possible to properly count installations that are using
corporate (or ISP's) caching proxies (in somecases those are transparent to
the end users)
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:21:09AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
wrote:
The only caveat I can think of (but there might be others) is that it would
not be possible to properly count installations that are using
corporate (or ISP's) caching proxies (in
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:53:42 +0200
Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For laptops brand/model would be nice, although it probably will be
difficult or impossible to include that in an automated fashion.
No it wouldn't. Most laptops have usable information in their smbios
which. See
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:45:38 -0400):
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the
following might be an acceptable compromise:
Farid not, it might result in slightly more installations being
reported, but it will
Looking at the submission numbers from
URL:http://popcon.debian.org/, I am happy to report that the number
of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of
submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. It
is easy to see when Etch was released.
date
Petter Reinholdtsen schrieb:
Looking at the submission numbers from
URL:http://popcon.debian.org/, I am happy to report that the number
of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of
submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. It
is easy to see when Etch
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Looking at the submission numbers from
URL:http://popcon.debian.org/, I am happy to report that the number
of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of
submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. It
is easy to see when Etch
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
results.
Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If the user hitted `No', this
really means that he doesn't want to call
Hi,
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
results.
Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If the user
* 2007-04-12 12:09, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
As long as we don't use that to collect sensitive information, it would be
ok IMO. (Of course, a preseed question could avoid it completely too)
I think Google Earth for Linux does the same, and IIRC the general
agreement in the free software community
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count
the
results.
Isn't this a violation
Fabio Tranchitella [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
results.
Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If the user hitted
On to, 2007-04-12 at 12:16 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
* 2007-04-12 12:09, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
As long as we don't use that to collect sensitive information, it would be
ok IMO. (Of course, a preseed question could avoid it completely too)
I think Google Earth for Linux does the
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 05:29 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
results.
Since there are some potential drawbacks to this functionality, what
concrete gain would the
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:39:32 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
I may be wrong, I don't know, but in my opinion a ping to call back home
even if the user said `No' is a evil behaviour and Debian should avoid it.
I agree. If the user says no, we should do nothing.
Full ack.
[ ] No, I do
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:13:55PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 05:29 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
results.
Since there are some
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
I may be wrong, I don't know, but in my opinion a ping to call back home
even if the user said `No' is a evil behaviour and Debian should avoid it.
I agree. If the user says no, we should do nothing.
Indeed, I also think that No here means I don't want to send any kind
[Sebastian Mach]
Is that only for stable? Me for example uses a february testing, and
I might not be alone
These numbers are for everyone, including oldstable, stable, testing
and unstable.
Friendly,
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[Lars Wirzenius]
However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the
following might be an acceptable compromise:
Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity
contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also choose to only
report once
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a
separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware
reports do not need to be sent as often as package usage. Such
report-once setting should report the output
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Sebastian Mach]
Is that only for stable? Me for example uses a february testing, and
I might not be alone
These numbers are for everyone, including oldstable, stable, testing
and unstable.
And what is most interesting about them is their
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the
following might be an acceptable compromise:
Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity
contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also choose to only
report
[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]
dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial
numbers.
Yes.
Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at
least warn the admin about the issues.
I believe The ubuntu hardware database collect that kind of
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial
numbers.
Yes.
Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at
least warn the admin about the issues.
I'd suggest to show the person in
On 4/12/07, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking at the submission numbers from
URL:http://popcon.debian.org/, I am happy to report that the number
of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of
submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment.
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:31 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote:
I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls
depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the
results.
Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:39 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the
following might be an acceptable compromise:
Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity
contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:32 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial
numbers.
Yes.
Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at
least
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:49:19PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a
separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware
reports do not need to be sent as often as package usage. Such
report-once setting
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:24:38PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:49:19PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a
separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware
reports do not need
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:32:33PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
I would be very interested in an i386-only feature to report wether the CPU
is 64-bit capable (I have code in win32-loader with this functionality).
I'm not sure how this would fit in your client/server protocol, but I can
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On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
[snip]
You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for lm in
flags.
Does lahf_lm count?
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Hit him with a fish,
* Ron Johnson:
On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
[snip]
You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for lm in
flags.
Does lahf_lm count?
The file should also list lm earlier on the same line.
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:25:02PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Please keep on sending these interesting stats, perhaps once-per-week,
to some blog or some mailing list. I'll be real glad. Thanks...
Better yet, set up a MRTG-like graph. Everybody loves fancy graphs and they
are really
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:21:09AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
The only caveat I can think of (but there might be others) is that it would
not be possible to properly count installations that are using
corporate (or ISP's) caching proxies (in somecases those are transparent
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
Better yet, set up a MRTG-like graph. Everybody loves fancy graphs and they
are really useful in presentations at conferences :)
http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png
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