Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org writes:
Ok. Lintian does not yet like httpd as a section, but I guess you will
not reject an upload just because I listened to you ;-)
Lintian is waiting for the d-d-a post saying that the new section changes
have been implemented, FWIW.
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Hi,
Joerg Jaspert dijo [Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100]:
As Lenny is finally released, and we are early in the cycle for squeeze,
now is the best time to do some long-needed changes to our archive.
Much of what we are currently doing is not visible to you as a user of
this archive, but
Hello,
Joerg Jaspert, le Fri 27 Feb 2009 09:02:11 +0100, a écrit :
Maybe it could be interesting to open an accessibility section?
Maybe, maybe not. What packages would you put into it?
Just a quick rough list (90 bin packages):
accerciser
at-spi
at-spi-doc
big-cursor
brltty
brltty-flite
* Carsten Hey c@web.de [090228 19:21]:
It shouldn't be anything harder than adding 'deprecated'
(non-library, deprecated software) to complement oldlibs,
Adding non-library packages to oldlibs would cause these to be handled
like a library by deborphan and thus possibly being falsely
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 10:14:34AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Carsten Hey c@web.de [090228 19:21]:
It shouldn't be anything harder than adding 'deprecated'
(non-library, deprecated software) to complement oldlibs,
Adding non-library packages to oldlibs would cause these to be
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 21:40 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
Select one of cli-mono or ecma-cli and please also get me a short
description :)
How about:
cli-mono -- The Common Language Infrastructure, the Mono
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:31:25PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Get me a short description for it.
Compiler, libraries, and tools for OCaml: a static typed ML language
implementation supporting functional, imperative, and object-oriented
programming styles.
You have an interesting
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:55PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
There are tools that understand the special meaning of the 'oldlibs' section
and treat it specially; at least deborphan comes to mind, there may be
others. I don't see the necessity for such a section rename, but if it
happens I
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:03:39PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:55PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
There are tools that understand the special meaning of the 'oldlibs'
section and treat it specially; at least deborphan comes to mind,
there may be others. I don't
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59:27AM +, Enrico Zini wrote:
I propose 'oldlibs' to be renamed to 'deprecated'.
That would also fit, for example, packages abandoned upstream, or
packages that have a better alternative, but that still have users.
I would expect to have so called
Maybe it could be interesting to open an accessibility section?
Maybe, maybe not. What packages would you put into it?
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ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object
oriented
language.
java Everything about Java
How about a cli section about everything related to Mono and the
Common Language Infrastructure (aka .NET) ? That makes quite a
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
gnustep
gnustep*
libgnustep*
*.app
*.framework
I maintain a page.app package. It is right it is a gnustep application
(ie it uses the gnustep framwork). However, I never use the gnustep
environment.
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
The new sections are:
ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object oriented
language.
java Everything about Java
videoVideo viewers, editors, recording, streaming
fonts
Vincent Danjean wrote:
What about creating a 'libs' section for different languages?
Something like libs-ruby, libs-perl, libs-python, libs-java, libs-r, ...
This would allow to split the big 'libs' section and this avoid to put
libs (ie mostly automatic pulled packages) in sections where
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
According to my knowledge of dak, the sections are global. Which means
that we don't
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 07:19:11AM +, Matthew Johnson wrote:
Should Java libs be in lib or libdevel (they are both). This is one of
the reasons we've wanted a Java section.
I wouldn't mind a proper discussion on the pros and cons of both.
That'd help me for debtags as well, where java
Hi,
On Freitag, 27. Februar 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:
According to my knowledge of dak, the sections are global. Which means
that we don't have to worry about a possible kernel update for
lenny+1/2. Am I correct with that?
Can you/anybody please explain how this is related to the sections?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
I propose 'oldlibs' to be renamed to 'deprecated'.
That would also fit, for example,
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 07:13:07AM +, Matthew Johnson wrote:
localization is the spelling given by the OED, so it is correct in all
locales. It doesn't even list localisation as an alternative spelling.
The OED lists plenty of examples of localisation and localise;
whether you consider the
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 01:19 +, Sam Morris a écrit :
I don’t like the name either, but can you think of a better one? We
could use “mono”, but it’s the implementation name.
'clr' (common language runtime)? It's the acronym that MS uses quite a
bit.
CLR is the acronym for the
Hi there!
Cc:ing the Debian Common Lisp mailing list.
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:02:03 +0100, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes:
Its lisp. Not one special part of it, just lisp. So other dialects as
well, if someone gets me a list of packages (or matches) for it.
[...]
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 09:03 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
Like the other poster, cli is very confusing. If we have enough
packages (get me a list/matches :) ), im not against a section for it,
but cli wouldnt be my favorite name for it.
I’m not sure for the section name, but here is a
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:53:04AM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
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Joerg Jaspert wrote:
[...]
The new sections are:
Bastian Blank wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
According to my knowledge of dak, the sections are global. Which means
that we don't have to worry about a possible kernel update for
lenny+1/2. Am I correct with that?
The sections are defined in the override
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:04:36AM +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
FYI, as Aaron already showed with his list, ome packages (especially the
non-library ones) do not have the cl-* suffix. StumpWM is missing,
for example.
Note that the current language-oriented sections (python, perl, and
the just
Bastian Blank wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
According to my knowledge of dak, the sections are global. Which means
that we don't have to worry about a possible kernel update for
lenny+1/2. Am I correct with that?
The sections are defined in the
Hi Stefano!
Cc:ing again the Debian Common Lisp mailing list, please keep it!
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:02:59 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:04:36AM +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
FYI, as Aaron already showed with his list, ome packages (especially the
non-library ones)
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Like the other poster, cli is very confusing. If we have enough
packages (get me a list/matches :) ), im not against a section for it,
but cli wouldnt be my favorite name for it.
I would suggest c-sharp for the section.
Cheers,
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Le
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 14:33 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Like the other poster, cli is very confusing. If we have enough
packages (get me a list/matches :) ), im not against a section for it,
but cli wouldnt be my favorite name for it.
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 14:33 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Like the other poster, cli is very confusing. If we have enough
packages (get me a list/matches :) ), im not against a section for it,
but
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
According to my knowledge of dak, the sections are global. Which means
that we don't have to worry about a possible kernel update for
lenny+1/2.
[BTW, the only proper spelling is GNUstep -- not Gnustep or
GNUStep.]
Vincent Danjean wrote:
I maintain a page.app package.
You mean paje.app, I assume (innocent typo)?
It is right it is a gnustep application (ie it uses the gnustep
framwork). However, I never use the gnustep environment.
On 11674 March 1977, Edward Betts wrote:
webfeed - RSS/Atom feed readers, aggregator and utilities
Not enough packages, can stay in web, especially as that gets rid of httpds.
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mhy ftpbot: oh bugger off, slave_NEW isn't affected by
Have sense to inaugurate a section with all the R modules? Nowadays
many of them are in math.
$ apt-cache search r- | grep ^r- | wc - l
133
Thats ok, get me a good name and short description for it please.
r is not a good name, i think.
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* wiggy just looking at
video
mplayer*
That is already in.
vswitch*
No hit for this match?!
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GyrosGeier I've annoyed Ganneff enough with that package already, no
reason to top it off by a build-depend on emacs for writing control
files
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You also want totem* and kaffeine*.
Done.
*-dbg packages could go in their own section(s) (debug, or libdebug
appdebug?); otherwise, I think that they should remain with (the bulk of) the
packages for which they provide debug data.
All debug packages will go in the debug section.
--
Get me a short description for it.
Compiler, libraries, and tools for OCaml: a static typed ML language
implementation supporting functional, imperative, and object-oriented
programming styles.
You have an interesting definition of short, i stopped after : for
now. :)
(Its a different thing
On 11674 March 1977, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
As I mentioned directly to override-change before encountering this
message, I'd argue that my goo package is a (somewhat exotic)
candidate. In general, here's a first cut at a full list, including
it and your initial proposals:
Thanks.
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Like the other poster, cli is very confusing. If we have enough
packages (get me a list/matches :) ), im not against a section for it,
but cli wouldnt be my favorite name for it.
I’m not sure for the section name, but here is a list of matches:
Select one of cli-mono or ecma-cli and please
El Vie 27 Feb 2009, Joerg Jaspert escribió:
Thats ok, get me a good name and short description for it please.
r is not a good name, i think.
gnu-r ?
Everything about GNU R, an statistical computation and graphics system
luciano
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:53:04AM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
On 26-02-2009 23:10, Darren Salt wrote:
I demand that Frans Pop may or may not have written...
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
[...]
Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org writes:
Seeing that the change of sections could pose some technical problems
(not only challenges implementing them) as well, let me ask one
(possibly stupid) question: Why do we need sections at all?
All that policy states is that it simplifies some
I demand that Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) may or may not have written...
[snip]
I do believe that users are getting used to see the terms i18n/l10n, and if
our users are able to find out what httpd and vcs mean, I'm pretty sure
they will survive l10n. :-)
Where's the t1g3r section?
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Hello world,
We also plan on adding a number of new sections.
wanna-build will need to be change for this too, and will
probably break if you give it an unknown section. Please
wait until the list is added to wanna-build.
Kurt
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 21:24 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
video
mplayer*
That is already in.
vswitch*
No hit for this match?!
Holger probably meant dvswitch. Which is in NEW, anyway.
Ben.
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59:27AM +, Enrico Zini wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
I propose 'oldlibs'
Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 21:40 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
Select one of cli-mono or ecma-cli and please also get me a short
description :)
How about:
cli-mono -- The Common Language Infrastructure, the Mono implementation
and packages containing Common Intermediate
Hello world,
As Lenny is finally released, and we are early in the cycle for squeeze,
now is the best time to do some long-needed changes to our archive.
Much of what we are currently doing is not visible to you as a user of
this archive, but the action we talk about now is:
We plan on changing
* Joerg Jaspert [Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:07:35 +0100]:
database
libmysql*
libdb4*
I'm not sure these (and possibly *some* of the other lib* packages
included in the listing) should be moved out of Section: libs. I can see
how having a database section to browse can
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful
anymore.
Great.
The new sections are:
[...]
localisationsLanguage packs
I'd prefer localization.
- We use en_US in
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
The new sections are:
Not like it is *that* important, but we now have more than 100
OCaml-related source packages in the archive, most of which are
libraries for OCaml development.
I don't if that warrants an ocaml section, which
Hi
Dne Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:07:35 +0100
Joerg Jaspert jo...@ganneff.de napsal(a):
database Databases
[...]
database
postgresql*
pg*
sqlite*
mysql*
libmysql*
db4.*
Joerg Jaspert jo...@ganneff.de writes:
The new sections are:
[...]
lisp Everything about Lisp
[...]
Is this just about Common Lisp, or other Lisp dialects as well? I'm
mainly referring to Scheme here, as it is another Lisp dialect in
(relatively) widespread use (the third
Hi,
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
java Everything about Java
{...}
gcj*
*gcj, too probably.
database
postgresql*
pg*
sqlite*
mysql*
libmysql*
That also hits database libs. Which
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
The new sections are:
Not like it is *that* important, but we now have more than 100
OCaml-related source packages in the archive, most of which are
libraries for OCaml development.
I don't if that
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Joerg Jaspert jo...@ganneff.de wrote:
lisp (no, not in brackets)
cl-*
*-lisp
*-el
Two things:
First, if by Lisp you mean everything related to Lisp, then this
should probably also include scheme*, not
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
The new sections are:
[..]
videoVideo viewers, editors, recording, streaming
What about renaming sound as audio? (if we introduce the video one, )
Since the (perl|python|ruby|...) sections should contains libraries,
Not like it is *that* important, but we now have more than 100
OCaml-related source packages in the archive, most of which are
libraries for OCaml development.
I don't if that warrants an ocaml section, which is your call, but
if it does, well, ... heads up :-)
Get me a short description
Joerg Jaspert, le Thu 26 Feb 2009 21:07:35 +0100, a écrit :
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
[...]
The new sections are:
ruby Everything about ruby, an
On 11673 March 1977, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Joerg Jaspert [Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:07:35 +0100]:
database
libmysql*
libdb4*
I'm not sure these (and possibly *some* of the other lib* packages
included in the listing) should be moved out of Section: libs. I can see
On 11673 March 1977, Frans Pop wrote:
localisationsLanguage packs
I'd prefer localization.
- We use en_US in general - ize
Well, I dont really care. Fine, adjusted.
- Having the section name plural seems inconsistent with other
sections.
Dito.
video
[...]
database Databases
[...]
database
postgresql*
pg*
sqlite*
mysql*
libmysql*
db4.*
libdb4*
firebird*
sql-*
lisp Everything about Lisp
Is this just about Common Lisp, or other Lisp dialects as well? I'm
mainly referring to Scheme here, as it is another Lisp dialect in
(relatively) widespread use (the third one being Emacs-Lisp).
Its lisp. Not one special part of it, just lisp.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:48:18PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I don't if that warrants an ocaml section, which is your call, but
if it does, well, ... heads up :-)
Get me a short description for it.
Compiler, libraries, and tools for OCaml: a static typed ML language
implementation
Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object oriented
language.
java Everything about Java
How about a cli section about everything related to Mono and the
Hi Jög,
On Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
As Lenny is finally released, and we are early in the cycle for squeeze,
now is the best time to do some long-needed changes to our archive.
[...]
Cool, nice!
The new sections are:
I think an r section would be useful, there are
El Jue 26 Feb 2009, Joerg Jaspert escribió:
ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object oriented
language.
java Everything about Java
Have sense to inaugurate a section with all the R modules? Nowadays many of
them are in
How about:
webfeed - RSS/Atom feed readers, aggregator and utilities
akregator
blam
canto
cl-rss
claws-mail-feeds-reader
dcoprss
evolution-rss
feed2imap
firefox-sagefirefox-sage
kitty
liferea*
magpierss
miro*
newsbeuter
nrss
olive
php-xml-rss
planet
python-feedparser
python-feedvalidator
Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes:
Its lisp. Not one special part of it, just lisp. So other dialects as
well, if someone gets me a list of packages (or matches) for it.
As I mentioned directly to override-change before encountering this
message, I'd argue that my goo package is a
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:50, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object
oriented
language.
java Everything about
Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes:
Its lisp. Not one special part of it, just lisp. So other dialects as
well, if someone gets me a list of packages (or matches) for it.
One more: ikarus (which I initially overlooked because it's only
available on i386 :-/).
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Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 17:08 -0800, Kelly Clowers a écrit :
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:50, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object
oriented
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:13:48 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 17:08 -0800, Kelly Clowers a écrit :
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:50, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org
wrote:
Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
ruby
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Aaron M. Ucko u...@debian.org wrote:
Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes:
Its lisp. Not one special part of it, just lisp. So other dialects as
well, if someone gets me a list of packages (or matches) for it.
As I mentioned directly to override-change
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
While we acknowledge that something like debtags will make a better
long-term solution, we do not think that it is ready yet to completly
replace sections (e.g. because it isn't assured that all packages have
tags). This is why we
I demand that Frans Pop may or may not have written...
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
Great.
The new sections are:
[...]
localisations
I demand that Joerg Jaspert may or may not have written...
[snip]
The initial set of packages moved into the new sections will be found
using the following matches:
[snip]
video
[snip]
*xine*
Slightly over-broad, unless you want to move library packages too (but I see
that
Daniel Moerner dmoer...@gmail.com writes:
chicken-bin
Ah, yes, I meant to list that but forgot; good catch.
mzscheme and drscheme are just plt-scheme transitional packages by now
True; in that case, perhaps they should go to oldlibs until they
retire altogether.
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On 26-02-2009 23:10, Darren Salt wrote:
I demand that Frans Pop may or may not have written...
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
[...]
The new sections are:
localisationsLanguage packs
I'd prefer localization.
Whereas I'd prefer localisation...
On Fri Feb 27 02:10, Darren Salt wrote:
I'd prefer localization.
Whereas I'd prefer localisation...
- We use en_US in general - ize
... unless you're localising for en_US. OTOH, given that that section is for
localisation, localization is probably right, being localised...
(-ize
On Fri Feb 27 02:00, Enrico Zini wrote:
Putting java libraries into 'java' instead of 'libs' would just make
it harder for a package manager to hide libraries. Debtags will work
for that, so no big deal, but at the moment 'libs' is nice because it
allows me to auto-tag packages from that
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