Re: VIM features

2002-01-06 Thread Paul Mackinney
Wichert Akkerman declaimed: Previously Caleb Shay wrote: I second this. For example, at the bottom of /etc/vim/vimrc there are several lines commented out as they cause vim to behave a lot different from regular vi. However, as was pointed out below, vim is NOT the default vi when you

Re: VIM features

2002-01-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Jan-02, 18:06 (CST), Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, vim is higher precedence than nvi. Ack. That's no longer true. Sorry. Steve

Re: VIM features

2002-01-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Paul Mackinney wrote: What would be helpful is a README.Debian file in /usr/doc/vim that alerts the user to the existence of /etc/vim/vimrc and its nice set of potential customizations. I had overlooked the vim stuff in /etc, but I have learned to check the /usr/doc directory.

Re: VIM features

2002-01-02 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 02:56:58PM -0800, Caleb Shay wrote: I second this. For example, at the bottom of /etc/vim/vimrc there are several lines commented out as they cause vim to behave a lot different from regular vi. However, as was pointed out below, vim is NOT the default vi when you

Re: VIM features

2002-01-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to see more user feedback on Debian's settings of the VIM editor. Currently, two important features are disabled in the default configurations: Syntax highlighting and special intending schemes. The question is: why?

Re: VIM features

2002-01-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Because it's *EVIL* (hello Wichert ;) ) Ook gelukkig nieuwjaar Miquel :) Wichert, would it be possible to only enable the line-wrapping auto-inserting syntax-highlighting coffee-making mode when vim is invoked as vim and leave it out when invoked as

Re: VIM features

2002-01-02 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:40:11 +0100 Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now they're only enabled for a few specific filetypes (word-wrapping for emails for example). I doubt it's possible to figure out how vim is invoked in the scripts and change behaviour on that. Is it not

Re: VIM features

2002-01-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Junichi Uekawa wrote: Is it not possible to create a vi wrapper script which contains something like the following? That doesn't make any difference since that is implied when you invoke vim as vi. Wichert. -- _

Re: VIM features

2002-01-02 Thread Tamas SZERB
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Junichi Uekawa wrote: Is it not possible to create a vi wrapper script which contains something like the following? That doesn't make any difference since that is implied when you invoke vim as vi. Bah. But you know how does he

VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hello, I would like to see more user feedback on Debian's settings of the VIM editor. Currently, two important features are disabled in the default configurations: Syntax highlighting and special intending schemes. The question is: why? Some (influent) people want to make VIM behave as the normal

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Eduard Bloch wrote: NOTE: this is not a start of a new holy war. I do not ask for giving vim's alternatives-entry a higher priority or so. I just want to use all VIM's features when I initially install it, without looking into my big config to enable intending or editing the vimrc

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:54:15PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: | Hello, | | I would like to see more user feedback on Debian's settings of the | VIM editor. Currently, two important features are disabled in the | default configurations: Syntax highlighting and special intending | schemes. The

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes: It does, depending on the environment. If many users of a system have used normal vi for a long time, and you want to convince them to install vim instead, it better behave the way they expect. Why do people insist on installing 'vim' as 'vi'? It isn't vi,

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Bdale Garbee wrote: Why do people insist on installing 'vim' as 'vi'? It isn't vi, and while I'm sure it's a perfectly reasonable editor, I've found if fairly disconcerting when I've stumbled onto a system where vim was masquerading as vi. Why not just install it as 'vim', use it

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Caleb Shay
I second this. For example, at the bottom of /etc/vim/vimrc there are several lines commented out as they cause vim to behave a lot different from regular vi. However, as was pointed out below, vim is NOT the default vi when you install, so why not enable some more of it's better features.

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Caleb Shay wrote: I second this. For example, at the bottom of /etc/vim/vimrc there are several lines commented out as they cause vim to behave a lot different from regular vi. However, as was pointed out below, vim is NOT the default vi when you install, so why not enable some

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Craig Dickson
Caleb Shay wrote: However, as was pointed out below, vim is NOT the default vi when you install, Only true if you install nvi (or some other higher-precedence vi clone), which isn't required. (g)vim is the only vi-like editor I have installed. Craig

Re: VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Jan-02, 17:22 (CST), Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caleb Shay wrote: However, as was pointed out below, vim is NOT the default vi when you install, Only true if you install nvi (or some other higher-precedence vi clone), which isn't required. (g)vim is the only vi-like