buildd administration [was Re: StrongARM tactics]

2005-12-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 08 décembre 2005 à 02:03 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : Which translates here to: 1) Buildd admin should be people interested in supporting the port. 2) People that are going to support the port must get the responsibility. Which is great as a statement of principle, but it

Re: buildd administration [was Re: StrongARM tactics]

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:40:17AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: As a result, no one can help with buildd maintenance as the current buildd admins won't let anyone help them, however overloaded they can be. They refuse to delegate any part of their powers because people aren't skilled enough,

Re: buildd administration [was Re: StrongARM tactics]

2005-12-08 Thread Richard Fojta
I don't know what's wrong but I think there is on principle, which shouldn't be forgotten. Try to understand first and then to be understood. I'd like to help, but may be I can't. Read Stephen Covey books. 2005/12/8, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:40:17AM +0100,

Re: buildd administration [was Re: StrongARM tactics]

2005-12-08 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Steve Langasek wrote: Er, did you even *read* this thread? We got on the topic of buildds because *someone refused to help diagnose build failures because they consider it the buildd admin's job*. Maybe it's not entirely impossible that the other subthread starting at | Wonderful. Nice to