Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-03 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, just my two penny's: Am Mo den 2. Jun 2008 um 22:28 schrieb Michael Biebl: Basically, the dbus init script provides a workaround for a limitation in our current init system. Real dependency based init systems, would automatically shutdown

dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, Currently dbus' initscript, when invoked with the stop, start, or restart arguments, will also restart services that depend on dbus. I think this is broken, but in an IRC discussion, Sjoerd Simons, one of the maintainers disagreed. My arguments: There are three cases where an initscript is

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Wouter Verhelst said: Currently, policy does not explicitly say that an initscript should not restart other services than the one it takes care of by itself, and Sjoerd suggested that a bug about this would be closed. Since policy doesn't explicitly support neither

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:34:22PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: - On upgrade. Since apparently dbus-using services die when dbus itself is restarted, it might make sense to restart those services too snip: text explaining one way to workaround the problem Howabout fixing dbus not to crash

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:34:22PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: - Stuff is broken, and I want to debug. This debugging might involve stopping and starting services one at a time. The current dbus setup makes this impossible. Personally, I find the current behaviour useful in the following

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Michael Biebl
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, Currently dbus' initscript, when invoked with the stop, start, or restart arguments, will also restart services that depend on dbus. I think this is broken, but in an IRC discussion, Sjoerd Simons, one of the maintainers disagreed. My arguments: There are three cases

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 08:44:06PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:34:22PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: - Stuff is broken, and I want to debug. This debugging might involve stopping and starting services one at a time. The current dbus setup makes this