Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [resorted by size] architecture |size --+ i386 | 3378532922 ia64 | 3394287226 And people allways say that 64 Bit archs

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: [alpha]7283 [i386] 7889 I'd not include non-free in the batch because many non-free on i386 are i386 only, i.e. binary driver installers. Ah, well spotted,

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [resorted by size] architecture |size --+ i386 | 3378532922 ia64 |

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:19:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: How much space do those 500 odd packages take up? Given a 50% sizce increase on binaries alpha should have another 1.8G of debs. If those 500 packages make up 1.2G (+50%=1.8G) then the 50% claim would be right. You're

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:19:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: How much space do those 500 odd packages take up? I really have no intention to peg the database up with a query like that. Here: $ zcat testing{,-proposed-updates}/main/binary-alpha/Packages.gz | grep-dctrl -n -s

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Andreas Barth
* Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030831 00:05]: On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next 4-6 weeks ? Drop potato? Or - allowing to act locally - put potato on an nfs-mounted volume (assuming that

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :) FYI, this is the size of all the binaries belonging to the given architecture, in the specifies suites:

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :) FYI, this is the size of all the

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And people allways say that 64 Bit archs need much bigger executables. Somehow alpha saves 328MB compared to i386 and a suggested 30-50% size increase on binaries would mean a lot of packages are not available on

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 09:05:24PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Funny that the count difference is so large... let me double check: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dists$ zcat testing{,-proposed-updates}/{main,contrib,non-free}/binary-alpha/Packages.gz | grep-dctrl -s Package -F Architecture -v

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: [alpha]7283 [i386] 7889 I'd not include non-free in the batch because many non-free on i386 are i386 only, i.e. binary driver installers. Ah, well spotted, but still there's some significant difference: [EMAIL

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And people allways say that 64 Bit archs need much bigger executables. But the numbers quoted are for compressed executables. -- see shy jo pgpJrjjbpIoUt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: Hi, I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult technically for us to deal with

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
jason andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult technically for us to deal with this in the short term.

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 09:29:16AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: What architectures are you mirroring? You could drop some of the more uncommon arches No, he cannot, it's ftp.au.debian.org. All official mirrors have been, are or will be in a similar situation. -- 2. That which

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult technically for us to deal with this in

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread jason andrade
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Josip Rodin wrote: /dev/sda3 97G 97G 470M 100.0 [] /bla /dev/sdf1100798036 98652428 2145608 98% /raid/lun1p1 and that is by moving a chunk of debian archives into another disk and symlinking back in.. Is there any way to

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Richard Atterer
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next 4-6 weeks ? We are still waiting for Joey to officially announce the obsolescence of potato on -announce so that it can be moved to archive.debian.org. That will

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
[I am not on debian-devel but reading the list through Usenet gateway] jason andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /dev/sdf1100798036 98652428 2145608 98% /raid/lun1p1 and that is by moving a chunk of debian archives into another disk and symlinking back in.. You may also want

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :) FYI, this is the size of all the binaries belonging to the given architecture, in the specifies suites: architecture | any| unstable| u+t| u+t+s

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:25:36PM +0300, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: ftp.fi.debian.org has the whole debian/ on the same partition but a couple of directories, such as debian-cd/, that were previously on the same partition with the mirror root are now mounted from a new location with the --bind

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: We are still waiting for Joey to officially announce the obsolescence of potato on -announce so that it can be moved to archive.debian.org. I've found out today that Joey doesn't feel there should be any more announcements. I've sent

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next 4-6 weeks ? Drop potato? -- - mdz

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread jason andrade
On Sun, 30 Aug 2003, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: [I am not on debian-devel but reading the list through Usenet gateway] i didn't realise debian-devel is gatewayed to a newsgroup.. interesting. You may also want to see mount(8) and look for bind from the manual page. Since there is not very much

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 30, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's harder within debian/ because you have to hand-pick parts of pool/ to bind-mount... messy. BTDT. It's even harder because the archive contain hard links between random directories. -- ciao, | Marco | [1565 id6qO1u0SBERA]

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Diego Calleja Garca
El 30 Aug 2003 20:25:36 +0300 Heikki Vatiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Since Linux 2.4.0 it is possible to remount part of the file hierarchy somewhere else. The call is mount --bind olddir newdir with 2.6 we also got mount --move olddir newdir 8)

debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-29 Thread jason andrade
Hi, I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult technically for us to deal with this in the short term. We have some new storage which is being