Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:07:13AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:03:34PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: why do you even care? It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. The Debian mentors

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-21 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:09:05PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Hello Martin, * Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 12:37]: Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Shot - Piotr Szotkowski
Hello. David Nusinow: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:30:14AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: [The small amount of stuff that _is_ different seems to mostly be high-profile end-user GUI apps that aren't going to have much significance for a server anyway.] Then why not run Debian? My wild guess,

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-20 08:54]: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? Why is this question on debian-devel, instead of in the inbox of the m.d.n maintainers? You are right, wrong place, sorry.

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Nico... I'm not reading debian-devel for two days and now this. ;) On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? mentors.debian.net is work in progress. As we are working on an improvement of the import process (that analyses the

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-20 12:28]: I'm not reading debian-devel for two days and now this. ;) :) On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? mentors.debian.net is work in progress. As we are working on an

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Christoph Haas
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:01:09PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The intention, as I understand it, isn't to be a general-purpose package repository (at least, last time I looked at it, no pre-built binary packages were provided), but to be a staging area of sorts for packages which people

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:44:43PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: Then why not run Debian? That's a question for the admins. Is the server only hosting this debian.net service and nothing else? Maybe it is primarily running something else and offered to host this debian.net service on top. As

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:48:51PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Great news! Where's my paycheck? (both of the above arguments have already been raised long ago, yes.) A minority

debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Nico Golde
Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? Regards Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x73647CFF http://www.ngolde.de | http://www.muttng.org | http://grml.org VIM has two modes - the one in which it beeps and the one in which it doesn't -- encrypted mail preferred

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE or Micro$$$ IIS :-), but still a bit embarrasing... Martin -- Martin Pitthttp://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Martin Pitt] This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE or Micro$$$ IIS :-), but still a bit embarrasing... Why is it embarrasing? Are Ubuntu sponsoring the machine, the hosting site, providing the OS, or what? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Nico Golde
* Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 12:23]: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? don't understand me wrong, this is no rant against ubuntu, i just wondered... regards nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: 0x73647CFF http://www.ngolde.de | http://www.muttng.org |

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Nigel Jones
On 19/07/05, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE or Micro$$$ IIS :-), but still a bit embarrasing... I think the Microsoft

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Martin, * Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 12:37]: Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE or Micro$$$ IIS :-), but still a bit embarrasing... I don't

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Willi Mann
Why is it embarrasing? Are Ubuntu sponsoring the machine, the hosting site, providing the OS, or what? At least the OS seems to be Ubuntu: $ telnet mentors.debian.net 80 Trying 212.12.58.146... Connected to mentors.workaround.org. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 HTTP/1.1 400 Bad

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1309 +0200]: I don't undestand what has ubuntu to do with a site which is mainly used by new debian maintainers and their packages? a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. www.debian.org runs on apache. what does

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 14:07]: also sprach Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1309 +0200]: I don't undestand what has ubuntu to do with a site which is mainly used by new debian maintainers and their packages? a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi Nico! Nico Golde [2005-07-19 13:09 +0200]: Hello Martin, * Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 12:37]: Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than SuSE or

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread John Hasler
martin f krafft writes: a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Only in the rather strained sense that she is also a Libranet, Mepis, and Linspire maintainer. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1309 +0200]: I don't undestand what has ubuntu to do with a site which is mainly used by new debian maintainers and their packages? a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Erm, no.

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:42:13PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: * Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 12:23]: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? don't understand me wrong, this is no rant against ubuntu, i just wondered... Cos it's trendy and Debian isn't. Unrelated question:

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:03:34PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1309 +0200]: I don't undestand what has ubuntu to do with a site which is mainly used by new debian maintainers and their packages? a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Julien BLACHE
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Great news! Where's my paycheck? (both of the above arguments have already been raised long ago, yes.) JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1507 +0200]: why do you even care? It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. Go ahead and provide hosting for it on a Debian machine, set it up, then apply

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1448 +0200]: a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Great news! Where's my paycheck? You don't get paid for being an Ubuntu developer. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 15:15]: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a new debian maintainer is also a ubuntu maintainer in some sense. Great news! Where's my paycheck? (both of the above arguments have already been raised long ago, yes.) don't flame about

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 23:06 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Unrelated question: why was mentors.debian.net delegated (historically) to non-DDs? Because a DD delegated it to them. Kind regards, Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:14:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1507 +0200]: It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. Go ahead and provide hosting for it

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:07:13AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. It depends on the reasoning behind the OS choice. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ PGP fingerprint:

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 09:07 -0400, David Nusinow wrote: It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. Well, at least it's Debian-derived? Just one leaf lower in the tree. I don't see or have any problem with

OT: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 12:21 +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? http://mentors.debian.net/ About this repository Welcome to the debian-mentors public software repository. ... Please note that this service is not run as a

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:06:28PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:42:13PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: * Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 12:23]: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? don't understand me wrong, this is no rant against ubuntu, i just

Re: OT: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 7/19/05, Ben Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 12:21 +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Heyho, why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? http://mentors.debian.net/ About this repository Welcome to the debian-mentors public software repository.

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Miles Bader
David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. Unbuntu is 99% Debian (it would be quite reasonable to describe an ubuntu system as running debian), so what's the big deal? [The

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:30:14AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system that's the reason for its existence. Unbuntu is 99% Debian (it would be quite reasonable to describe an

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Miles Bader
David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unbuntu is 99% Debian (it would be quite reasonable to describe an ubuntu system as running debian), so what's the big deal? [The small amount of stuff that _is_ different seems to mostly be high-profile end-user GUI apps that aren't going to have much

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:21:09PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu? Why is this question on debian-devel, instead of in the inbox of the m.d.n maintainers? - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:06:28PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Unrelated question: why was mentors.debian.net delegated (historically) to non-DDs? Because those were the people that decided they wanted the service, and dedicated the time to getting it (and keeping it) operational? - Matt

Re: debian mentors ubuntu

2005-07-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:34:28AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:14:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005.07.19.1507 +0200]: It's rather pathetic that the Debian mentors site doesn't run the operating system