Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-15 Thread Steve Greenland
On 14-Nov-05, 20:22 (CST), Pierre THIERRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You trust them, but not any user of Debian will want to trust them so much. Some will want some degree of confidence that the binaries are clean... Then they need to download the source, examine it, and build the binary.

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-14 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Manoj Srivastava dies 11/11/2005 hora 22:35: You gotta start trusting somewhere. Our web of trust starts with the Developers in the keyring, we trust these people not to muck with the binaries. You trust them, but not any user of Debian will want to trust them so much. Some will want

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-14 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Josselin Mouette dies 12/11/2005 hora 18:37: It was already suggested to accept only source+binary uploads, but to rebuild the binaries on the upload's architecture anyway. Has there been a consensus on rejecting that solution? Curiously, Nowhere man -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 11 novembre 2005 à 23:19 +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo a écrit : Sorry, Joss, but I can't believe disk space can be a problem nowadays. Of course you can be short of disk space, but a 160GB HDD is quite affordable, and you can cache Debian lot of times there. I can't believe I'm

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 12 novembre 2005 à 02:29 +0100, Pierre THIERRY a écrit : And I see a rationale for allowing them: what prevents a DD to upload binaries that include exploits or some trojan code, along with a clean source? It was already suggested to accept only source+binary uploads, but to rebuild

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:18:00AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10469 March 1977, Josselin Mouette wrote: I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. Because people then fuck up their packages even more. No, they havent been

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 11 novembre 2005 à 00:55 +0100, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Why is this the case ? I'm running with experimental GNOME packages; if I upload a binary package depending on them, it will be uninstallable on unstable systems. How can you

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/10/05, Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Josselin Mouette] I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. It's the first line of defense against people uploading things that don't build, wasting various infrastructure

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brian Nelson] Oh, so Ubuntu packages are fucked up more by their maintainers more than Debian packages are? Yes, or so it's been alleged. Not being a user of ubuntu unstable, I can't confirm or deny. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El jue, 10-11-2005 a las 23:43 +0100, Josselin Mouette escribió: Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 23:00 +0100, Adeodato Simó a écrit : * Josselin Mouette [Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:45:20 +0100]: (And don't tell me to use pbuilder, I don't have the disk space nor the bandwidth for it.) Why

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Josselin Mouette dies 10/11/2005 hora 22:45: Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 13:32 -0800, Debian Installer a écrit : Rejected: source only uploads are not supported. I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. And I see a rationale

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:29:56 +0100, Pierre THIERRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Scribit Josselin Mouette dies 10/11/2005 hora 22:45: Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 13:32 -0800, Debian Installer a écrit : Rejected: source only uploads are not supported. I can't see the rationale for rejecting source

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 13:32 -0800, Debian Installer a écrit : Rejected: source only uploads are not supported. Why is this the case ? I'm running with experimental GNOME packages; if I upload a binary package depending on them, it will be uninstallable on unstable systems. I can't see the

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Josselin Mouette [Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:45:20 +0100]: (And don't tell me to use pbuilder, I don't have the disk space nor the bandwidth for it.) Why bandwidth? Several systems exist to cache debs so they don't have to be fetched from the net each time they're used (apt-cacher, apt-proxy,

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 23:00 +0100, Adeodato Simó a écrit : * Josselin Mouette [Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:45:20 +0100]: (And don't tell me to use pbuilder, I don't have the disk space nor the bandwidth for it.) Why bandwidth? Several systems exist to cache debs so they don't have to

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Josselin Mouette] I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. It's the first line of defense against people uploading things that don't build, wasting various infrastructure resources. Perhaps what you need is for someone to set up an

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 23:00 +0100, Adeodato Simó a écrit : * Josselin Mouette [Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:45:20 +0100]: (And don't tell me to use pbuilder, I don't have the disk space nor the bandwidth for it.) Why

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 04:49:08PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Josselin Mouette] I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. It's the first line of defense against people uploading things that don't build, wasting various

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 10 novembre 2005 à 17:49 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit : Why not get someone else that has sufficient bandwidth/diskspace to build it in a pbuilder and upload for you? That's the obvious solution, but it just makes things more complicated. I was wondering the rationale behind

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 10:45:20PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. AFAIK, this is false. Source-only uploads were never allowed in Debian. Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] www:

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10469 March 1977, Josselin Mouette wrote: Rejected: source only uploads are not supported. I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. Because people then fuck up their packages even more. No, they havent been accepted in the past.

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Brian Nelson
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10469 March 1977, Josselin Mouette wrote: Rejected: source only uploads are not supported. I can't see the rationale for rejecting source uploads, and they used to be accepted in the past. Because people then fuck up their packages even more.

Re: gnome-swallow_1.2-2_source.changes REJECTED

2005-11-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Why is this the case ? I'm running with experimental GNOME packages; if I upload a binary package depending on them, it will be uninstallable on unstable systems. How can you test your packages if you dont build them? Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,