Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-03 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Goswin von Brederlow said: Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed. WTF? Are you listening to yourself? Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-02 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed. WTF? Are you listening to yourself? Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such horrendous ways with the packaging system? -- Faidon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed. WTF? Are you listening to yourself? Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such horrendous ways with the packaging system? If you don't want it

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlowgoswin-...@web.de wrote: Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:04:38PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Waiting for multi-arch, Goswin's system permits me to use wine (and chromium browser) on my 64bits Debian. A simple chroot will permit you to use this. And is a much saner thing than anything we have seen until now. I beg

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Yannick
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: The choices where 1) rewrite the old ia32-libs + ia32-libs-gtk for the new libc6-i386 or 2) make ia32-apt-get take over (slightly prematurely in hindsight) If it's possible (according to ftp-masters) to have the old ia32-libs packages adapted to the new

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] You only need apt-get update. The rest works in aptitude or synaptic. I've gotten into the habit of using 'apt-get update' even though I otherwise use aptitude. This was necessary while I was building a custom repository at work, because apt-get's error reporting is far

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: Is there any way of

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR the packaging system. Report a critical bug against the package. Arrange so that it can

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR the packaging system. Report a critical bug against the

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and 'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my system made me feel more than slightly ill.

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. So I'll just ask a couple

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR the packaging system. Report a critical

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org writes: On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and 'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. So I'll just ask a couple

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11797 March 1977, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove it? You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it but actually consider

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Yannick
Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11797 March 1977, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove it? You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove it? You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it but actually consider removing it completly. Good job. Not being a DD, my

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Aneurin Price
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlowgoswin-...@web.de wrote: Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. Not wanting to leave it at

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Yannick yannick.roeh...@free.fr writes: Maybe all of this should go to experimental (is there a problem with wine depending on experimental packages for amd64?) but thank you Goswin for your work. Yannick The problem was that libc6-i386 broke all 32bit support in unstable making all 32bit

ia32-libs transition

2009-06-29 Thread Aneurin Price
Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? I don't think many people expect

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: Is there any way of preventing this kind of major