its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Please avoid the topic that uses the util-linux program, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:28:55PM +0400, Oleg wrote: I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with gnome3, etc). Great. gnome3 does not depend on systemd directly. It depends on some interfaces provided (solely,

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Oleg
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:51:38AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with gnome3, etc). Great. gnome3 does not depend on systemd directly. It depends on some interfaces provided (solely, currently) by systemd. And it's not

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/12/2014 12:26 PM, Oleg wrote: I do my job. And i have no enough time to do a job of others. This is a strange logic: if something goes wrong, we must throw our work and do a work of others. But you obviously have enough time to join this discussion and ask questions that have been

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Oleg
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:32:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 02/12/2014 12:26 PM, Oleg wrote: I do my job. And i have no enough time to do a job of others. This is a strange logic: if something goes wrong, we must throw our work and do a work of others. But you

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:51 +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Please avoid the topic that uses the util-linux program, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:28:55PM +0400, Oleg wrote: I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with gnome3, etc). Great. gnome3 does not depend

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 12:32 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 02/12/2014 12:26 PM, Oleg wrote: I do my job. And i have no enough time to do a job of others. This is a strange logic: if something goes wrong, we must throw our work and do a work of others. But you obviously have

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2014-02-12 12:26 GMT+01:00 Oleg lego12...@yandex.ru: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:51:38AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I'm using debian and i don't want to use systemd in any form (with gnome3, etc). Great. gnome3 does not depend on systemd directly. It depends on some interfaces

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/12/2014 12:59 PM, Svante Signell wrote: And you seem to have infinite amount of time defending systemd, please do some work as Debian Developer too (your hundreds of replies are annoying)! http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=glaubitz%40physik.fu-berlin.de Ranked 4th:

Re: its developers and its users. [was: something from util-linux]

2014-02-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:48:12PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: gdm3 for example does, via systemd-logind, why don't you search for bugs caused by that package! Anyone is free to provide an alternative. There is a fork and it is planned as an alternative. That GNOME depends on a dbus interface