Hi all, I read the whole thread about network manager starting from http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg00051.html
I am an average joe/user who has been a Ubuntu user for few years while migrating to Debian during the Squeeze freeze cycle (about 6 months back) . The system I run on is a desktop which is connects via ethernet to a D-Link Modem/Router to net. While reading the thread I saw that there is something called ifupdown which is managing stuff for me. I get a dynamic IP assigned each time I log in and the connection is an ADSL connection which is pretty much one of the main ways to connect to Internet in India, although with laptops wireless is happening. Ok, so in the interest of understanding of what's or how things are happening, I first decided to see the contents of the package ifupdown $ dpkg -L ifupdown and then see the manpage of ifup and other things. Then tried to run the various things as put up in the manpage :- $ /etc/network/run/ifstate bash: /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied It took me quite some time and trying all different things before I came to :- $ cat /etc/network/run/ifstate lo=lo and $ /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/contrib/ifstate-check lo: UP,CONFIGURED neither of which tells me much about how things are configured (something is hidden somewhere) . Now as a user both the info. I have got doesn't tell me anything. Its only after much playing around that I come to known ifconfig which actually tells me what I need to know :- ~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr some:alphanumeric:address inet addr:ipv4.add.re.ss Bcast:ipv4.add.re.ss Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: another.alphanumeric.address Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:49733 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48783 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:55630643 (53.0 MiB) TX bytes:5838151 (5.5 MiB) Interrupt:42 Base address:0xsomething lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:445 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:445 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:33957 (33.1 KiB) TX bytes:33957 (33.1 KiB) Even though I am/was able to get this, from the past 6 months or so I have not been able to run bittorrent on this and I do not know the reason for this. Its a complete mystery to me. I am able to update/upgrade the system, run .jigdo to update the weekly ISO DVD's and do all kinds of git and svn stuff but unable to get bittorrent. Even for the wireless thing, atleast in my country there are no longer many open WiFi hotspots especially after the 2008 Mumbai attacks as the terrorists used the wifi to publicize their attack on net. Why bittorrent is not working still is a mystery to me, any help in that regard would be appreciated. The reason I share all of this is as a user I don't really know how my system is configured and nor does ifupdown make it any way easy for me to understand how its done. Atleast to me it seems cryptic in the way its configures stuff and the way the manpages are written. They are not written for the average joe to make head or tail of. This is not for or against network-manager, this is just a user's experience. As can be seen above, I'm no guru, in fact far far away from that. Just my 2 paise. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=ahs1z3gam-nhkpuggzrmzpre...@mail.gmail.com