Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:07:51PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:06:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:08:39PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: mplayer has had an explicit warning from upstream that it's

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-21 Thread John Hasler
Andrew writes: Aren't we in a similar situation with other stuff that is in main already? rsync springs to mind. Don't forget the Linux kernel. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Christian Marillat
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: aj@azure.humbug.org.au: [...] Contrast rte, where the ftpmasters told Marillat exactly what he needed to remove to get the package in Debian, and he didn't do it, and declared that he would keep uploading it. Leaving *that* in limbo is totally

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10540 March 1977, Christian Marillat wrote: Contrast rte, where the ftpmasters told Marillat exactly what he needed to remove to get the package in Debian, and he didn't do it, and declared that he would keep uploading it. Leaving *that* in limbo is totally reasonable. I've *never*

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
I wrote: Contrast rte, where the ftpmasters told Marillat exactly what he needed to remove to get the package in Debian, and he didn't do it, and declared that he would keep uploading it. Leaving *that* in limbo is totally reasonable. Christian Marillat wrote: I've *never* received any

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Christian Marillat
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10540 March 1977, Christian Marillat wrote: Contrast rte, where the ftpmasters told Marillat exactly what he needed to remove to get the package in Debian, and he didn't do it, and declared that he would keep uploading it. Leaving *that* in limbo

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: mplayer has had an explicit warning from upstream that it's patented; The proposed tarball for Debian has stuff excised left and right in order to guarantee legality. Just check that the patented stuff was excised, right? Alternatively, I would be quite happy with

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10540 March 1977, Christian Marillat wrote: Right, you've got a list of reasons why it got rejected and half of that is still true. I still don't see why rte can't enter in main, when ffmpeg is already in main and does the same. Two bads doesnt make one good, so we stay with one

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 22:29 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10540 March 1977, Christian Marillat wrote: Right, you've got a list of reasons why it got rejected and half of that is still true. I still don't see why rte can't enter in main, when ffmpeg is already in main and does

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:08:39PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: mplayer has had an explicit warning from upstream that it's patented; The proposed tarball for Debian has stuff excised left and right in order to guarantee legality. Just check that the patented

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:06:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:08:39PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: mplayer has had an explicit warning from upstream that it's patented; The proposed tarball for Debian has stuff excised left and

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-20 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2006-01-21 06:06:36]: No, we have real problems with video codec stuff in Debian and they need to be resolved thoroughly, not expediently. i was under the impression that the ftp-master team had started to work on that several month ago, shortly before

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Eric Dorland] This has probably been covered ad nauseum, but where do we stand in respect to getting mplayer in Debian? [Nathanael Nerode] IIRC, the copyright issues were carefully worked out and solved after several years, finally reaching the approval of debian-legal. At which point it

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 11:08:42AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Eric Dorland] This has probably been covered ad nauseum, but where do we stand in respect to getting mplayer in Debian? [Nathanael Nerode] IIRC, the copyright issues were carefully worked out and solved after several

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Nathanael Nerode
aj@azure.humbug.org.au: MJ Ray's already done such a summary; it's rather trivially inadequate, due to the information its summarising being equally inadequate. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00901.html So the summary amounts to patents. Is that right? In other words,

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Apologies to AJ and the ftpmasters. I found the *important* part of the thread, which I'd apparently missed during December, in which the ftpmasters... drumroll explain what would be needed for mplayer to go into Debian now, barring finding additional problems. Congrats Jeroen van

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10539 March 1977, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Congrats Jeroen van Wolfellaar, ftpmaster extraordinare, not afraid to take on the difficult cases (he also managed the REJECT on rte IRRC). Nope, he didnt reject rte. -- bye Joerg 16. What should you do if a security bug is discovered in one

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 19, Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an objection, or shall I file a serious bug against ffmpeg? Yes, I object to asking for removal of MPEG encoders because there is no good reason to do it. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 à 15:15 -0500, Nathanael Nerode a écrit : Is there an objection, or shall I file a serious bug against ffmpeg? The ffmpeg package doesn't include any faad, mp3, or other encoders for which patents are actively enforced. Therefore there is no reason to remove it from

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:15:46PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: And to reiterate: If Debian wants to be legally safe w.r.t. mpeg encoder patents, removing some mpeg encoders and not others -- when the others have been pointed out -- is really a bad idea. Nathanael, stop trying to make

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-18 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has probably been covered ad nauseum, but where do we stand in respect to getting mplayer in Debian? IIRC, the copyright issues were carefully worked out and solved after several years, finally reaching the approval of debian-legal. At which point it

new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-16 Thread A Mennucc
hi everybody a new version of mplayer 1.0pre7try2 is available ; add either for the etch version, the line deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch ./ or for the sarge version, the line deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge ./ to /etc/apt/source.list . a. signature.asc

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-16 Thread Eric Dorland
* A Mennucc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: hi everybody a new version of mplayer 1.0pre7try2 is available ; add either for the etch version, the line deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch ./ or for the sarge version, the line deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge ./

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-16 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 06:27:40PM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: hi everybody a new version of mplayer 1.0pre7try2 is available ; add either for the etch version, the line deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch ./ or for the sarge version, the line deb

Re: new mplayer 1.0pre7try2 package

2006-01-16 Thread Vedran Furač
A Mennucc wrote: hi everybody a new version of mplayer 1.0pre7try2 is available ; add either for the etch version, the line deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch ./ Hi! Now we have mplayer in this repositories: http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch