Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-18 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Steve Langasek wrote: With the delays in getting t-p-u built across architectures, that's not long enough for me to be comfortable. I didn't realize t-p-u took so long. But I suppose that's the way it is. Thanks for the explanation, and thank you for your work on getting Sarge out the door! --

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:39:42PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 22:16, Steve Langasek wrote: Still, the concerns about re-adding this software version (which has been out of testing for months) via t-p-u remain. Its hard to see it being any worse than freeswan,

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-16 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Steve Langasek may or may not have written... On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 05:44:33PM -0400, François-Denis Gonthier wrote: On May 7, 2005 09:03 pm, Joey Hess wrote: erlang Erlang and the related erlang-manpages and erlang-doc-html are being put up-to-date by me. I have a package

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-16 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 15, 2005, at 22:16, Steve Langasek wrote: Still, the concerns about re-adding this software version (which has been out of testing for months) via t-p-u remain. Its hard to see it being any worse than freeswan, which has been abandoned for a while by its upstream. And if it turns out to

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 11:07:36AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005 12:30:21 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Completely MIA maintainers are one part of the problem. But then there's the class of maintainers who manage to upload a new upstream version and perhaps fix some RC bugs

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:33:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:10:10AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Steve Langasek schrieb: If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer ( 2.6.8) kernel, why not just get 2.3.x pushed into sarge? Are there any other big issues

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 10:49:10PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:33:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:10:10AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Steve Langasek schrieb: If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer ( 2.6.8) kernel, why not

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-14 Thread Thomas Hood
On Wed, 11 May 2005 12:30:21 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Completely MIA maintainers are one part of the problem. But then there's the class of maintainers who manage to upload a new upstream version and perhaps fix some RC bugs every few months but are not able to properly handle all bugs in

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-14 Thread =?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois-Denis_Gonthier?=
On May 7, 2005 09:03 pm, Joey Hess wrote: erlang Erlang and the related erlang-manpages and erlang-doc-html are being put up-to-date by me. I have a package ready which should be uploaded by my sponsor in the coming week. I guess that means that the package that reverse depends on Erlang

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 05:44:33PM -0400, François-Denis Gonthier wrote: On May 7, 2005 09:03 pm, Joey Hess wrote: erlang Erlang and the related erlang-manpages and erlang-doc-html are being put up-to-date by me. I have a package ready which should be uploaded by my sponsor in the

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 09:03:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: polyxmass-doc That's the documentation for binaries that _are_ in sid; it was a few days late for sarge. I find this to be quite sucky, that Debian ships the program, but not the documentation. (Let's note that I'm not the maintainer,

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:00:48PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:42:43PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: How often does a quick NMU that gives a fast improvement in the RC bugs metric hide the real problem that the maintainer is

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:50:48AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:00:48PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:42:43PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: How often does a quick NMU that gives a fast improvement in

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Joey Hess
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 09:03:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: polyxmass-doc That's the documentation for binaries that _are_ in sid; it was a few days late for sarge. I find this to be quite sucky, that Debian ships the program, but not the documentation. (Let's

[Baghira] :: Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Vadim Petrunin
Sorry, but looks like there is no rc bugs in the baghira package. There was only one bug Serious policy violations but it is resolved now. Why it is out of release? p/s Also baghira is a source package for kwin-baghira. Is it means that kwin-baghira will be refused too? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [Baghira] :: Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Adam M.
Vadim Petrunin wrote: Sorry, but looks like there is no rc bugs in the baghira package. There was only one bug Serious policy violations but it is resolved now. Why it is out of release? http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/baghira.html Ask the maintainer. It was not in Sarge because of that one

Re: [Baghira] :: Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Joey Hess
Vadim Petrunin wrote: Sorry, but looks like there is no rc bugs in the baghira package. There was only one bug Serious policy violations but it is resolved now. Why it is out of release? As you can see in update-excuses: baghira (- to 0.6f-1) Maintainer: Jose Luis Tallon Too young,

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:10:10AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Steve Langasek schrieb: If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer ( 2.6.8) kernel, why not just get 2.3.x pushed into sarge? Are there any other big issues with it, that weren't in 2.2.x? Some people might certainly like the

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez-Sanguino_Pe=F1a?=
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 04:02:58PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Adrian Bunk] The entry packages: was a bug in my quickdirty scripting... Thanks for making a nice summary of the relevant packages. :) Feel free to include the script to generate the list when you generate dynamic list

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 02:40 schrieb Anthony DeRobertis: Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the kernel which will not ship with Sarge. Yes, that's true. I have to admit that I messed up in not marking this bug sid. My current best solution would be to put 2.2.0-4

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:32:49AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 02:40 schrieb Anthony DeRobertis: Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the kernel which will not ship with Sarge. Yes, that's true. I have to admit that I messed up in not

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 04:17:41AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:32:49AM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Am Dienstag, 10. Mai 2005 02:40 schrieb Anthony DeRobertis: Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the kernel which will not ship

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Steve Langasek schrieb: If that 2.3.x bug really only affects the newer ( 2.6.8) kernel, why not just get 2.3.x pushed into sarge? Are there any other big issues with it, that weren't in 2.2.x? Some people might certainly like the agressive mode support, or 2.3.1's NAT-T fixes. Personally, 2.2.x

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 7 May 2005, Joey Hess wrote: So here is a list (from update-excuses) of all 491 packages that is being held out of sarge[1]. If you've already done all you can on the RC bugs on packages in sarge, take a look over it and if you spot anything important or generally worth fixing, point

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:54:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Yes, it's called garbage in, garbage out. If people aren't going to file bugs at the proper severity, and if package maintainers aren't going to treat release-critical bugs with the appropriate urgency when they *are* filed at

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 04:02:58PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Adrian Bunk] The entry packages: was a bug in my quickdirty scripting... Thanks for making a nice summary of the relevant packages. :) Feel free to include the script to generate the list when you generate dynamic list

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 10 May 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: Speaking as somebody who is quite unrelated to release issues (except that I keep my packages bug free) I have some questions: were at the correct severity and tagged correctly, your release management is based on an assumption that isn't true. Interesting

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:42:43PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: Speaking as somebody who is quite unrelated to release issues (except that I keep my packages bug free) I have some questions: were at the correct severity and tagged correctly, your

re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Vincent McIntyre
Hi I'd like to raise the question of apt-proxy. I discussed offlist with JoeyH and he wasn't keen, but now I've done a few tests and have more confidence that this is worth raising. apt-proxy comes in two flavours - the old shell-based one and a new shiny python one. The most recent

re: packages missing from sarge (apt-proxy)

2005-05-10 Thread Vincent McIntyre
sorry to followup my own post, but... I did a few apt-proxy-import tests by removing a random set of .debs out of the cache tree and importing again. This worked correctly. Cheers Vince -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Vince, On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:22:28AM +1000, Vincent McIntyre wrote: apt-proxy comes in two flavours - the old shell-based one and a new shiny python one. The most recent shell-based one is apt-proxy-1.3.7, in t-p-u. The most recent python-based one is apt-proxy-1.9.28, in unstable.

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-10 Thread Vincent . McIntyre
Proposal: allow 1.3.7 into sarge, on the following basis - * woody has 1.3.0, ie it's used by current users of stable This doesn't deal with questions of possible bit rot (which your tests address to some extent, but not completely). It also doesn't provide a smooth upgrade path for

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 21:03 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: So here is a list (from update-excuses) of all 491 packages that is being held out of sarge[1]. ... eglade There are no open bugs. Can it be put back in? -- Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Isle of

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Adrian Bunk] The entry packages: was a bug in my quickdirty scripting... Thanks for making a nice summary of the relevant packages. :) Feel free to include the script to generate the list when you generate dynamic list of packages like this. It would make it easier for all of us to

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-09 Thread Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez-Sanguino_Pe=F1a?=
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 04:02:58PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Adrian Bunk] The entry packages: was a bug in my quickdirty scripting... Thanks for making a nice summary of the relevant packages. :) Feel free to include the script to generate the list when you generate dynamic list

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-09 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 8, 2005, at 08:36, Andreas Henriksson wrote: Hi everybody! Although I guess there's no chance for it to make it in, Openswan is the one on my personal wishlist. Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the kernel which will not ship with Sarge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Seconded! The only RC-bug in openswan is for a newer version of the kernel which will not ship with Sarge. Doesn't #291274 also affect the 2.6.8 kernel? Also, what of the mail in that bug report stating that even once it's patched to build, it doesn't really work?

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 7 May 2005, Joey Hess wrote: bb I did not checked your complete list but our most frequently used programs at exhigition boothes. It currently has no RC bug (the only grave bug was solved two weeks ago. So something is wrong either with your list of with the removal. Kind regards

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Paul Cupis
Joey Hess wrote: [snip] doctorj Seem to just be a SPARC buildd issue holding this out of sarge, as reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] previously. Can someone with access to a SPARC do a binary-NMU to get this into sarge, please? [1]

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On 08/05/2005-10:35, Joey Hess wrote: ocaml-getopt According to [1], this package was removed because of bug#306074, which is now fixed. ocaml-getopt in unstable is now 12 days old, so I think it can be allowed back in testing. Thanks, Julien Cristau [1]

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 08:45:21AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Sat, 7 May 2005, Joey Hess wrote: bb I did not checked your complete list but our most frequently used programs at exhigition boothes. It currently has no RC bug (the only grave bug was solved two weeks ago. So something

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:36:16PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 08:45:21AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Sat, 7 May 2005, Joey Hess wrote: bb I did not checked your complete list but our most frequently used programs at exhigition boothes. It currently has no RC

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 09:03:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: ... mnemo2 This package was 10 days old when sarge was frozen. It contain just one minor bug. I think it can be safely added. ... Regards, // Ola -- - Ola Lundqvist --- / [EMAIL

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi all, The following two packages are the only ones not in testing that I currently use. Note that both are in woody, so it would be good they also shipped with sarge. (packages maintainers cced, in the hope they might fix these themselves). (Note: I'm not a dd, so I can't fix these

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:21:05PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On 08/05/2005-10:35, Joey Hess wrote: ocaml-getopt According to [1], this package was removed because of bug#306074, which is now fixed. ocaml-getopt in unstable is now 12 days old, so I think it can be allowed back in

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hi everybody! Although I guess there's no chance for it to make it in, Openswan is the one on my personal wishlist. Yes, the package is still buggy but AFAIK the bugs are eighter on the kernel-patches (I don't use KLIPS in favor of the in-kernel ipsec layer, and since they seem to be a real

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joey Hess] So here is a list (from update-excuses) of all 491 packages that is being held out of sarge[1]. I would be even more interested in seeing which packages in woody are now missing in sarge. Anyone have such a list available? It would be nice to have some working upgrade path for

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:07:44PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Joey Hess] So here is a list (from update-excuses) of all 491 packages that is being held out of sarge[1]. I would be even more interested in seeing which packages in woody are now missing in sarge. Anyone have such a

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
At the bottom is a complete list of the 2070 binary packages present in woody but not in sarge (including nun-US and contrib/non-free). Correction: 2069 binary packages The entry packages: was a bug in my quickdirty scripting... cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain? Ling Tan

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Joey Hess
Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 09:03:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: ... mnemo2 This package was 10 days old when sarge was frozen. It contain just one minor bug. I think it can be safely added. Sorry, I don't think it's a net win to accept packages that were NEW just before the

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Joey Hess
Andrew Vaughan wrote: partimage Bug: #294953 partimage - refuses to restore image on i386 which is created on s390. Synopsis: partimage seems to be i386 only, yet is still built for other arches. The changelog for 0.6.4-10 says: partimage (0.6.4-10) unstable; urgency=low * Change

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: Yes, it's called garbage in, garbage out. If people aren't going to file bugs at the proper severity, and if package maintainers aren't going to treat release-critical bugs with the appropriate urgency when they *are* filed at the wrong severity, there's

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 8 May 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: Yes, it's called garbage in, garbage out. If people aren't going to file bugs at the proper severity, and if package maintainers aren't going to treat release-critical bugs with the appropriate urgency when

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: I agree completely here that all bugs should be fixed and the fact that a bug should be RC but is not marked as such qualifies also for removal If a bug is RC but not marked such then mark it. Then it is RC and marked such and any discussion about

packages missing from sarge

2005-05-07 Thread Joey Hess
The release team has been fairly agressive for many months now about removing RC buggy packages from sarge. I'm glad of this policy since we now have a maneagable number of RC bugs. However, there's the possibility this means some packages that are important to many people have been dropped and