Hi Joey,
Am 2014-11-07 22:04, schrieb Joey Hess:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Shocking.
Thanks for all the great stuff you did and do, from a Debian user and
I think all have been said, so I will just join this with +1.
Cheers,
Ondrej
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014, at 02:08, Russ Allbery wrote:
zlatan zla...@riseup.net writes:
In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am
writing from my phone and I am not a native English speaker.
On Friday 07 November 2014 17:04:10 Joey Hess wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
I'm very sorry to read this. We'll miss you.
All the best
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Hi Faidon,
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:46:57AM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
Extremely sad to read this, Joey.
+1
I personally feel like loosing a friend. If I imagine myself to leave
Debian I would leave a major part of my life and I guess its similar for
Joey and that the decision was
Hey Joey,
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 06:12:13PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Please take that message with a pound of salt. I was upset when I wrote
it, it's probably not accurate, and I've left[1] for reasons that are
much more broadly structural, and are certianly not the fault of the
technical
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
So you still could (and perhaps should[0]) reconsider not to leave
Debian.
Guess you've read the lists and saw how many people were emotionally
hit and upset about this.
Joey, I beg you too. Please reconsider.
Still, if it's not fun anymore by all means run
Sad news. I wish you all the best for your future endeavours. I hope
to cross paths with you from time to time (maybe I should tidy up my
half finished ikiwiki patches!)
The coincidental timing of Colin leaving the tech-ctte did make me
wonder how different things would be if we could have
On 11/08/2014 at 10:57 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
In the end it's quite easy: sysvinit has many deficiencies ans
missing feature, systemd is superior in all places.
On 11/09/2014 at 12:01 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
All of these systems were capable of booting a Linux,...
Le samedi 08 novembre 2014 à 23:30 -0500, Michael Gilbert a écrit :
No, the fire is not systemd, it is the politicization of the project
via ctte and GR rather than patient evolution of the best technical
solution.
You are definitely right. However, I think we would all appreciate if
you
Hi,
On 09/11/14 07:28, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 23:30 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
No accusation, just a statement of fact. Four ctte members were
complicit in the vote [0]
Well maybe I read that ruling
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Ralf Jung wrote:
I read Joey's message over and over without getting any more clues. He
said the CTTE has Decided it should make a decision, which it seems to
me it did not. So I probably misunderstood something more fundamental here.
Read all of #762194 very
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 12:54:39PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Ralf Jung wrote:
I read Joey's message over and over without getting any more clues. He
said the CTTE has Decided it should make a decision, which it seems to
me it did not. So I probably
On 2014-11-09 18:19, Adam Borowski wrote:
And since changing the init system on
existing installations is an important _technical_ problem, it is in
scope
for the CTTE.
Where does the constitution make important technical problems in scope
for the tech committee? (Not being awkward, but
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Hi,
On 09.11.2014 04:57, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
In the end it's quite easy: sysvinit has many deficiencies ans
missing feature, systemd is superior in all places.
- From your perspective.
I can completely understand why we (and that
2014-11-10 0:38 GMT+03:00 Simon Richter s...@debian.org:
automake
With autotools one can always use plain shell code in configure.ac and
plain make in Makefile.am ;-)
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On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 18:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
I've left[1]
+
Almost.
So you still could (and perhaps should[0]) reconsider not to leave
Debian.
Guess you've read the lists and saw how many people were emotionally hit
and upset about this.
(well I think it's worth a try ^^)
Cheers,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
see shy jo :(
Richard
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On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 22:38 +0100, Simon Richter wrote:
I can completely understand why we (and that includes me) want systemd
as a default: it gives the best possible integration of desktop
components possible.
I even think it's best on a server (that means, if it was used as it
could be)...
Joey,
Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 17:04:10 schrieb Joey Hess:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
I am sad from reading this. I do not know you as a person, except
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Joey Hess wrote:
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
So long, and thanks for all the fish. We will miss you.
Norbert
PREINING, Norbert
Quoting Joey Hess (2014-11-07 22:04:10)
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
:-(
I am very sad that you leave. But also curious where you will go from
here - many
On 11/07/14 23:04, Joey Hess wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Extremely sad to read this, Joey. The few times we've crossed paths,
I've enjoyed working with
2014-11-08[Sat]11:38 Roman Czyborra read that
2014-11-08[Sat]10:46 Faidon Liambotis wrote
545de691.2090...@debian.org:
Extremely sad to read this, Joey. The few times we've crossed paths,
I've enjoyed working with you (and on your ideas) incredibly. And of
course I am -as we are all- enjoying
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the
Debian constitution was originally proposed, despite seeing it as
dubious, I neglected to speak out against it. It's clear to me
now that it's a toxic
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Joey Hess wrote:
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
So long, and thanks for all the damn hard work and working code.
May you live long, prosper, and continue to inspire others to
greatness.
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not cent from
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 10:19:02 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
Joey,
Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 17:04:10 schrieb Joey Hess:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, Michael Hanke wrote:
If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the
Debian constitution was originally proposed, despite seeing it as
dubious, I neglected to speak out against it. It's clear to me
now that it's a toxic document,
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
I share your feelings. Back in those days you and Joey were the
Joey Hess dijo [Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400]:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
How can the Master Fisherman thank us for all the fish?
Yes, pulling the
zlatan zla...@riseup.net writes:
In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am
writing from my phone and I am not a native English speaker.
[...]
And yet, I don't see how it could have been said better. Thank you so
much for putting this into words.
I just want the
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
zlatan writes:
In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am
writing from my phone and I am not a native English speaker.
[...]
And yet, I don't see how it could have been said better. Thank you so
much for putting
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:32 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
You are one of four
complicit in the act that finally pushed Joey over the edge [0].
Don't you think it goes a bit far to personally accusing some people of
this?
I guess Joey was long enough in the business to have known how to deal
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:32 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
You are one of four
complicit in the act that finally pushed Joey over the edge [0].
Don't you think it goes a bit far to personally accusing some people of
this?
No
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 23:30 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
No accusation, just a statement of fact. Four ctte members were
complicit in the vote [0]
Well maybe I read that ruling wrong, but didn't it more or less say
we're not deciding anything right now?
And even if that decision would be the
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 23:30 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
No accusation, just a statement of fact. Four ctte members were
complicit in the vote [0]
Well maybe I read that ruling wrong, but didn't it more or less say
we're not
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Note that this also constitutes an orphaning as upstream of
debhelper, alien, dpkg-repack, and debmirror.
I will be making final
Hi,
2014-11-07 22:04 GMT+01:00 Joey Hess jo...@debian.org:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Note that this also constitutes an orphaning as upstream of
debhelper,
On Nov 07, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Well, this sucks.
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Marco
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On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:04:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Note that this also constitutes an orphaning as upstream of
debhelper,
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
I'm gutted.
If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the
Debian
Joey Hess wrote:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
(Insert record-scratch sound-effect and sounds of brain rebooting here.)
Thank you deeply for your work. It
Hi Joey,
among all the Debian developers you have been one of the most inspiring to me.
I hope that you will keep your blog syndicated on planet.debian.org !
Cheers,
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Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
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In advance sorry for all spelling mistake that I will write as I am writing
from my phone and I am not a native English speaker.
I am emotionally crushed by this.
You are one of two DD's I interviewed for our LUG in Banja Luka, shortly after
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I
originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish
everyone well, but I'm out.
Thank you. You've been a model Debian member to many of us, and I will
miss your inspiration and
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 17:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
but I'm out.
Wow what saddening news :-(
It's really a pity to good ones leaving... hope you'd reconsider your
decision and come back after some break perhaps!
If not, all the best and thanks.
Cheers,
Chris.
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I've always thought you have been providing Debian with very sensible
thoughts and guiding. Your wisdom will be missed. Wishing you the
best.
Samuel
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On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 01:55:24AM +0100, Aneurin Price wrote:
On 4 April 2013 18:28, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote:
There is apparently no mode of argument, or style of
communications, which is capable of penetrating the Debian
bureaucracy. It is impervious, even to patches which have
On 4 April 2013 18:28, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote:
There is apparently no mode of argument, or style of
communications, which is capable of penetrating the Debian
bureaucracy. It is impervious, even to patches which have been
previously solicited. Silly me, for taking that seriously.
You
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:45:55 -0300
Ben Armstrong sy...@debian.org wrote:
Just take care in future that the style of communications you used
triggered someone's wetware spam filter with a false positive.
I initially wrote up a detailed bug report, and then when somebody
suggested that the
On 04/04/13 02:28 PM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:45:55 -0300
Ben Armstrong sy...@debian.org wrote:
Just take care in future that the style of communications you used
triggered someone's wetware spam filter with a false positive.
I initially wrote up a detailed
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:45:26 -0300
Ben Armstrong sy...@debian.org wrote:
the long and sordid tale of your bid to get attention for this bug
That's right; I wrote it up in detail, provided patches when asked to do
so, provided test scripts to demonstrate the correctness of those
patches,
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