Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-03 Thread Mike Dresser
Daniel Stone wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:21:58PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: Adding readline support, while you're at it, would be really nice:-) And alias quit to exit. :) type.exit.you.dolt A 127.0.0.1 quitIN CNAME

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:21:58PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: Adding readline support, while you're at it, would be really nice:-) And alias quit to exit. :) -d, who now uses dig -- Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 01 May 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 28, Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but who have choose that nslookup is deprecated in favour of the other two tools ? The people who wrote BIND and developed a very large part of the DNS infrastructure, the group of people

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 01:27:56PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: On Tue 01 May 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote: nslookup is broken, please let it die its long-deserved death. What's broken about it, apart from the brokenness that's in the current version about the verbose warnings and missing

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Alexander Koch
On Wed, 2 May 2001 13:39:17 +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: See http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/tinydns.html#nslookup f.e. djbdns? you really mean it? *brrzzzap* Suprise, you're dead. [1] EOT anyone? [2] Regards, Alexander [1] I happen to like that song... [2] Mutt has scoring abilities, right? djb sux,

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 02, Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2001 13:39:17 +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: See http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/tinydns.html#nslookup f.e. djbdns? you really mean it? Actually this is one of the few things about which DJB is right. -- ciao, Marco

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 02, Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks like a requirement to remove a few lines of code, rather than to retire the whole program. So what else is wrong with it? The fact it hides important debugging information should be enough, but if you need other arguments please

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:30:21PM +, Alexander Koch wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2001 13:39:17 +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: See http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/faq/tinydns.html#nslookup f.e. djbdns? you really mean it? yes. *brrzzzap* [2] Mutt has scoring abilities, right? djb sux, so... thanks for

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Gerrit Pape ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What makes you reacting so blind and childish? This is not the topic of this thread, just notice that there are debian people running djbdns - relaxed, bind-free. Not having real djbdns (+co) packages in debian is a pity.

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Clint Adams
Adding readline support, while you're at it, would be really nice:-) It isn't readline, but check out the nslookup function that comes with zsh.

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:02:33PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: Closed-source software is even more of a pity. DJB's license (or lack there of) makes it impossible to distribute binaries that aren't compiled by DJB himself. i certainly hope you speak out of ignorance, i would hate to think that

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Alan Shutko
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:02:33PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: Closed-source software is even more of a pity. DJB's license (or lack there of) makes it impossible to distribute binaries that aren't compiled by DJB himself. i certainly hope

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:02:33PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of Gerrit Pape ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What makes you reacting so blind and childish? This is not the topic of this thread, just notice that there are debian people running djbdns - relaxed, bind-free. Not

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Gerrit Pape ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:02:33PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of Gerrit Pape ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What makes you reacting so blind and childish? This is not the topic of this thread, just notice that

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:37:33PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You may distribute a precompiled package if o installing your package produces exactly the same files, in exactly the same locations, that a user would obtain by

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Jacob Kuntz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Closed may have been the wrong word. Non-free would have been more accurate. You can study DJB's code all you want, but not your own binaries ^

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:52:04PM +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: Not having real djbdns (+co) packages in debian is a pity. As the maintainer of the djbdns-installer package, I feel obliged to mention that there are quite a few people using this package and they are quite happy with it. It requires

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of John H. Robinson, IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): it says ``that a user would obtain by installing''SO this means: on (say) a Debian 2.1 system, if a user were to get the tarbal, and compile it against the default libs, as per the instructions, and install as per the

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Alan Shutko
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it says ``that a user would obtain by installing'' Sorry, I thought he was referring to binary packages above. -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In a variety of flavors! Well, Jim, I'm not much of an actor either.

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:56:28PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of Gerrit Pape ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Closed may have been the wrong word. Non-free would have been more accurate. You can study DJB's code all you want, but not your own binaries or modified source. again,

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:13:08PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of John H. Robinson, IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm not sure if this has come up before, but since DJB likes to install in /var, wouldn't any Debian package fail the policy check? that is just qmail and the

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:13:08PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote: from the secret journal of John H. Robinson, IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): it says ``that a user would obtain by installing''SO this means: on (say) a Debian 2.1 system, if a user were to get the tarbal, and compile it against the

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enough said. Fuck him. On Wed, 2 May 2001, Gerrit Pape wrote: http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html - -- Sacred cows make the best burgers Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 28, Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but who have choose that nslookup is deprecated in favour of the other two tools ? The people who wrote BIND and developed a very large part of the DNS infrastructure, the group of people who knows about DNS more than most other people

why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Since about a month, seems to me that I have to use dig and I feel this situation as an imposition. First, the nslookup start message says that nslookup is 'deprecated' and tell me to use dig or host instead. If I don't want to see this message I have to use -silent option ... OK, but who have

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: OK, but who have choose that nslookup is deprecated in favour of the other two tools ? It's authors. Why we have to remove nsllokup from debian ? You are free to take an old bind source and create a nslookup package based on those. Wichert. --

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread David N. Welton
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: OK, but who have choose that nslookup is deprecated in favour of the other two tools ? It's authors. Why we have to remove nsllokup from debian ? You are free to take an old bind source and create a