Re: Fwd: Mac Address in C

2007-06-05 Thread Stefano Canepa
Il giorno lun, 04/06/2007 alle 13.32 -0700, Fabrizio Gattuso ha scritto: On 4 Giu, 22:10, Andrea Ferraresi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scusate il repost ma ho mandato la mail a fabrizio in privato -- Forwarded message -- From: Andrea Ferraresi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:32:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:29:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 04 juin 2007 à 21:29 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : Again, this doesn't take into account existing symbols that change their

Re: License discussions in Debian (was: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta)

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, given that as an ftpmaster I'm one of the folks who actually implements the policy on what's accepted into main or not, it's not my loss at all. I think that Debian would very much

How is bugs.txt generated on qa.d.o ?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, How is generated the following file ? http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/results/bugs.txt I'm asking because it usually happens that it contains broken entries, such as, currently: information:==searching:0(0) 1(1) 0(0) 0(0) ca`result:===for:0(0) 1(1) 0(0) 0(0)

Bug#427605: ITP: privbind -- Allow unprivileged apps to bind to a privileged port

2007-06-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: privbind Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/privbind * License : GPL Programming Lang: C

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:29:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: I agree that the benefits are worth the deal, but we should make clear that the price to pay for these benefits is a continuous effort from the maintainer. Therefore it should not be

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: I think that Debian would very much benefit if there was a place (call it [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever) where our policy with regard to individual software's licenes could be discussed with

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:08:31 schrieb Frank Küster: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: And a mail like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350624;msg=142;att=0 is not only not-helpful-at-all, it's really

Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, I'm packaging some neuroimaging tools that come with datasets that are required for those tools to work properly. The size of these datasets is up to 400 MB (some others at least well over 100 MB). My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package

Bug#427610: ITP: gmobilemedia -- GTK application used to browse a mobile phone filesystem

2007-06-05 Thread Michal Čihař
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michal Čihař [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: gmobilemedia Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Iván Gabriel Campaña-Naranjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 05, Michael Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package in the archive? Not for a niche package, at least. - much easier to handle for users (thinking of offline machines) I could not care less, since the

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2007/6/5, Michael Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm packaging some neuroimaging tools that come with datasets that are required for those tools to work properly. The size of these datasets is up to 400 MB (some others at least well over 100 MB). My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote: Also, you should think about this issue not just in the context of the single package you are interested in but as a general policy. I think because Michael actually is thinking about a general policy he just asked this question here. He was asking for

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2007-06-05 at 10:37 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: We also have some funny 3D games with huge data packages. So were is the borderline for this. Does it make sense to install a data repository that is not mirrored? I suggest that it makes sense to a) package the data as .debs, for

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jun 05, Michael Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip - much easier to handle for users (thinking of offline machines) I could not care less, since the number of users affected is with very good approximation zero. Agreed.

Re: Bug#426874: ITP: pkg -- High-level library for managing Debian package information

2007-06-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:01:16AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: Great to see this!, but I'm rather scared about its name: isn't pkg too generic? Wouldn't debpkg be a better (since more specific and describing) name? After some discussion in #debian-devel, I went for 'upt'. Wow ... cool ... a

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:54:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 04:51:40AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:25:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Additionally, personally I don't think it's unreasonable for people to say if you use my software

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke a écrit : My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package in the archive? An alternative to a dedicated package would be to provide a download/install script for the data (like the

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jun 05, Michael Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - diskspace is rather cheap and bandwith should be no problem as the number of downloads will remain relatively low. Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is bandwidth in

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:17:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 01:13:44AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: It is a freedom that I have by default; if I accept the CDDL I no longer have that freedom[1]. [...] [1] Technically, not the right to choose a venue, but the

Re: Bug#426874: ITP: pkg -- High-level library for managing Debian package information

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:08:17AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: After some discussion in #debian-devel, I went for 'upt'. Wow ... cool ... a TLA! ... except that I've no idea what does it mean :-) But I guess I can wait to read the long description ... You're late: it's ept now :)

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 05, Michael Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this is a valid problem. I think that is exactly the reason why the Debian archive also provides the sources of each package (orig.tar.gz) and does not simply point to the upstream sites while keeping only the diffs in the archive.

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:56:40AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:29:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: I agree that the benefits are worth the deal, but we should make clear that the price to pay for these benefits is

Re: Bug#427558: ITP: fenix0.92 -- development environment for making 2D games

2007-06-05 Thread paddy
* Package name: fenix0.92 That's a fab name for a piece of software, isn't it ? I'm surprised it hasn't been used more often :-) Regards, Paddy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote: Then it should be obvious obvious = common sense ... but the commons sense has to be defined in a technical document. that it's a bad idea to add to the archive multiple packages each containing hundred of megabits of data which are only useful

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:08:31 schrieb Frank Küster: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: And a mail like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350624;msg=142;att=0 is not

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: Also, you should think about this issue not just in the context of the single package you are interested in but as a general policy. I was hoping to give that impression... Then it should be obvious that it's a bad idea to add to the archive multiple

Bug#427630: ITP: ingimp -- Instrumented version of the GNU Image Manipulation Program

2007-06-05 Thread Francois Marier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francois Marier [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: ingimp Version : 2.2.15.20070604 Upstream Author : Michael Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.ingimp.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Python

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:07:20AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:32:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:29:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 04 juin 2007 à 21:29 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : Again, this

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] and a vaguely interesting note is: * actually suing based on the license might be complicated by a choice of venue That you can argue the latter is analogous to a fee isn't really very interesting. That some people are concerned

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] That's mostly because -legal won't even say that the GPLv2 is DFSG-free, except in so far as it's explicitly listed as being DFSG-free. Got a reference for that? GPLv2 is a very frequently-suggested DFSG-free licences, has been the subject of

Re: Accepted cowdancer 0.29 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007, Junichi Uekawa wrote: * qemubuilder, cowbuilder: 'set -e' when sourcing configuration file. Thanks; I think I found the reason of the problem: I used to call cowbuilder like this: # /usr/sbin/cowbuilder --update --configfile /home/lool/.pbuilder/sid.pbuilderrc

Re: Accepted cowdancer 0.29 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007, Loïc Minier wrote: Thanks; I think I found the reason of the problem: I used to call cowbuilder like this: (Ups; sent to debian-devel because I hit reply in a debian-devel-changes mail thinking it would behave like a commit mail.) -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:28:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke a ?crit : My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package in the archive? An alternative to a dedicated package would be to

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:07:52PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: You could ask Anthony whether you're allowed to publish his reasons on -legal. That would do the project a great favor. You could just ask me directly you know... ] I thought choice-of-venue is non-free by default? ] ] Via Simon

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:08:31AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: That's true, as an ideal. In reality, you can't expect every DD or even maintainer to subscribe to -legal except when they've got a particular problem to discuss. Sure, but you don't need or want that. All you need is an

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:09:06AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Why doesn't it matter? If I've been sued because of something I've actually done that infringed the license, then surely the DFSG and Debian shouldn't be concerned with that (other than the question of whether what I've done is

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Bug#38902 for hysterical interest, btw. Ahh, my memory that this topic came up in 2000 was not that bad - just missed it by 7 months. I wonder, whether there is a more verbose explanation for tagging it wontfix

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Library maintainers are supposed to maintain the *.symbols file. For this, they have to create files debian/package.symbols.arch (dpkg-gensymbols will try too fallback to debian/symbols.arch,

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 15:14, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm not sure if avoiding duplicating the data (1G of data is bad, but 1G of the same data in a .orig.tar.gz _and_ a .deb is absurd) is enough to just use the existing archive and mirror network, or if it'd still be worth setting up a separate

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-05 Thread Kris Deugau
Lennart Sorensen wrote: For the kind of cash the enterprise vendors tend to charge, yes actually now that you ask, I think I can expect them to figure out dependancies and making proper packages. ... by making reasonable assumptions about what is on the system based on a standard install of

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 14:20:40 schrieb Anthony Towns: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:07:52PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: You could ask Anthony whether you're allowed to publish his reasons on -legal. That would do the project a great favor. You could just ask me directly you know... As my

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 14:20:40 schrieb Anthony Towns: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:07:52PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: You could ask Anthony whether you're allowed to publish his reasons on -legal. That would do the project a great favor. You could

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/05/07 08:58, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 15:14, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm not sure if avoiding duplicating the data (1G of data is bad, but 1G of the same data in a .orig.tar.gz _and_ a .deb is absurd) is enough to just use the existing archive and mirror network, or if it'd

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Luis Matos
Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 15:14, Anthony Towns wrote: I'm not sure if avoiding duplicating the data (1G of data is bad, but 1G of the same data in a .orig.tar.gz _and_ a .deb is absurd) is enough to just use the existing archive and mirror network, or if it'd still be worth

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Oleg Verych
* From: Steve Langasek * Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 02:56:14 -0700 On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:56:40AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: [] Considering the number of bugs I see because of maintainers who don't notice they need to change package names due

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:58:08PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: IMO it would be worth it if we could split out gigabytes of data from the main archive and thus significantly reduce the bandwidth needed for mirror syncs. Especially if that data is only used by an extremely small subset of

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:30:36 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: And I mean, I know what a GR is for, why are you telling me? It's still not a *good solution* for deciding these things; it's a last resort, and the only other options we

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Greenland
On 05-Jun-07, 08:37 (CDT), Kris Deugau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: For the kind of cash the enterprise vendors tend to charge, yes actually now that you ask, I think I can expect them to figure out dependancies and making proper packages. ... by making reasonable

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:28:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke a ?crit : My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package in the archive? many thanks for bringing this crucial question on

Re: i386 33meg boot iso

2007-06-05 Thread Gunnar Wolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo [Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:19:25PM -0400]: To: All Wow!!! I have tried to install debian 4 or 5 times and hungup on vidio drivers or mem address for the drivers. I downloaded the 33 meg. i386 boot iso on 6/4/07 daily build #2 It whent from boot to a desktop

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Two different analogous licenses might be: By distributing the covered work, you agree that the copyright holder can sue you for violations of the license. If you distribute the covered work, the licensor agrees not to sue you in any

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: Debug packages: (369MB) (not arch:all) 53959746 boson-dbg 55430908 icedove-dbg 56274922 koffice-dbg 59787420 iceape-dbg 86404478 libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg These seem to be built with separated debugging symbols. They could probably still be reduced in

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Josselin Mouette] A possible part of the solution would be a script parsing the diff between headers and emitting warnings such as: * type foo has changed, please check it doesn't affect functions bar/baz/... * enum foo has new possible values, please check it doesn't

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote: Finally, why not add the symbol informations to the shlibs file (that can be done in a backwards compatible way) instead of creating yet another control file ? I'd rather we didn't, even if it doesn't break anything it still abuses the shlibs file format as defined

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:37:58AM -0400, Kris Deugau wrote: ... by making reasonable assumptions about what is on the system based on a standard install of $version of $distribution. Well too many seem to assume that you are running some version of redhat, and that redhat equals linux and

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Russ Allbery
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] No, punting to a GR [...] ends up with -legal folks complaining that the resolution doesn't make sense. I think that most are reasonable and do that only if the resolution includes no explanation. One of the

Bug#427680: RFH: moc -- ncurses based console audio player

2007-06-05 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the moc package. The package description is: moc (music on console) is a full-screen player designed to be powerful and easy to use. . Supported file formats are: MP3, OGG Vorbis, FLAC, WAVE, SPEEX, Musepack (MPC), AIFF,

Re: i386 33meg boot iso

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:14:14AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo [Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:19:25PM -0400]: To: All This list is targetted at the development of Debian, not at user support. You will find better answers if you try [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you may have

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:55:43 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:30:36 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: And I mean, I know what a GR is for, why are you telling me? It's still not a *good solution* for deciding these

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:20:40PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: ] I thought choice-of-venue is non-free by default? An example of a different MPL 1.1 derived choice-of-venue clause is firebird2's: This License shall be governed by California law provisions (except to the extent

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Hanke
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:58:33AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:28:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke a ?crit : My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package in

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 06:07:46 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Perhaps a more interesting example is xserver-xorg-core's inclusion of the GLX Public License, which includes: Any litigation relating to this License shall be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the Federal Courts

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Are either of you going to debconf, or able to point out some example large (free?) data sets that should be packaged like this as a test case for playing with over debconf? For a first shot we could play with sauerbraten-data. I just stumbled upon it

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Felipe Sateler
Steve Langasek wrote: Throwing a sensible error at build-time if the soname has changed without a package name change is also something that needs to be done, as well as throwing an error at build-time if symbols listed in the symbols file have gone missing; Lintian already does the first,

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Roger Leigh
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 06:28:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:09:07AM +0200, Michael Hanke a ?crit : My question is now: Is it reasonable to provide this rather huge amount of data in a package in the archive? many thanks

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070605 17:42]: Moving game data elsewhere would require some way for games in main to depend on data elsewhere. That's one of topics the pkg-games team is planing to adress during a BoF at DebConf7 (beside some other stuff). Hints welcome ;) Yours

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Felipe Sateler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What you want may be achieved by enforcing the use of lintian, but I don't know how that can be done. The primary barrier to enforcing the use of lintian is #243976. lintian needs to get much better about identifying the source of checks, the certainty

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:47:07PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Throwing a sensible error at build-time if the soname has changed without a package name change is also something that needs to be done, as well as throwing an error at build-time if symbols listed in the symbols file have

ITP: evolvotron -- Texture generator

2007-06-05 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: evolvotron Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Authors: Tim Day * URL : http://www.bottlenose.demon.co.uk/share/evolvotron/ * License : GNU GPL Description : Texture generator This is an interactive generative

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-05 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 04:16:29PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 11:16:08PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: Think about Enterprise (non-free) software like Oracle, HP Openview, Tivoli, Remedy... Do you expect vendors of this software to

Bug#427709: ITP: movabletype -- A well-known blogging engine

2007-06-05 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominic Hargreaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: movabletype Version : 4 Upstream Author : SixApart, Ltd. * URL : http://www.movabletype.org/opensource/ * License : GPL[*] Programming Lang: Perl Description :

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Felipe Sateler
Russ Allbery wrote: Felipe Sateler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What you want may be achieved by enforcing the use of lintian, but I don't know how that can be done. The primary barrier to enforcing the use of lintian is #243976. lintian needs to get much better about identifying the

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Felipe Sateler
Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:47:07PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Throwing a sensible error at build-time if the soname has changed without a package name change is also something that needs to be done, as well as throwing an error at build-time if symbols listed in

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Felipe Sateler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery wrote: The primary barrier to enforcing the use of lintian is #243976. lintian needs to get much better about identifying the source of checks, the certainty that something is wrong, and the severity level so that dak can run lintian in a

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:47:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh a écrit : Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are either of you going to debconf, or able to point out some example large (free?) data sets that should be packaged like this as a test case for playing with over debconf? The NCBI

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Russ Allbery] They *usually* do, but not all E tags are certain problems. Of course, maintainers could use overrides. I'm opposed to adding overrides to my packages for cases where, in my view, lintian should somehow have enough information to see the case as a false positive. I use them

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Russ Allbery] They *usually* do, but not all E tags are certain problems. Of course, maintainers could use overrides. I'm opposed to adding overrides to my packages for cases where, in my view, lintian should somehow have enough information to see

Accepted gcc-4.1 4.1.2-12 (sparc source all i386 powerpc)

2007-06-05 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:53:23 +0200 Source: gcc-4.1 Binary: gcc-4.1-soft-float libstdc++6-4.1-pic libstdc++6 lib32ffi4 gobjc++-4.1-multilib libobjc1 lib32gfortran1 gfortran-4.1 libgcc1 libstdc++6-4.1-doc lib64gfortran1 gcc-4.1-multilib

Accepted zsnes 1.510-1 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Joshua Kwan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:46:47 -0700 Source: zsnes Binary: zsnes Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.510-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Joshua Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Joshua Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted digikam 2:0.9.2~beta3-1 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Debian KDE Extras Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:26:53 +0100 Source: digikam Binary: showfoto digikam Architecture: source i386 Version: 2:0.9.2~beta3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Debian

Accepted gosa 2.5.11a-1 (source all)

2007-06-05 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:57:23 +0200 Source: gosa Binary: gosa-help-de gosa-schema gosa-help-fr gosa gosa-help-nl Architecture: source all Version: 2.5.11a-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Cajus Pollmeier [EMAIL

Accepted dates 0.4.3-1 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Ross Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:17:18 +0100 Source: dates Binary: dates libgtkdatesview0 libgtkdatesview-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.4.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.0.0-4 (source i386 all)

2007-06-05 Thread Drew Parsons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:35:50 +1000 Source: xserver-xorg-video-intel Binary: xserver-xorg-video-i810 xserver-xorg-video-intel Architecture: source i386 all Version: 2:2.0.0-4 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian X

Accepted dash 0.5.3-8 (source all)

2007-06-05 Thread Gerrit Pape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:46:04 + Source: dash Binary: dash-udeb ash dash Architecture: all source Version: 0.5.3-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted cmus 2.1.0-2 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Julien Louis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:56:58 +0200 Source: cmus Binary: cmus Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.1.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Julien Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Julien Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted freqtweak 0.7.0~cvs20070605-1 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Bart Martens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:35:52 +0200 Source: freqtweak Binary: freqtweak Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.0~cvs20070605-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bart Martens [EMAIL

Accepted netperf 2.4.3-5 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Erik Wenzel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:54:54 + Source: netperf Binary: netperf Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.4.3-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Erik Wenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Erik Wenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted cmake 2.4.5-1.1 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:28:35 +0200 Source: cmake Binary: cmake Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.4.5-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: A. Maitland Bottoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL

Accepted cowdancer 0.29 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:10:23 +0900 Source: cowdancer Binary: qemubuilder cowdancer Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.29 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Junichi Uekawa

Accepted pbuilder 0.169 (source all amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:37:46 +0900 Source: pbuilder Binary: pbuilder pbuilder-uml Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.169 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian pbuilder maintenance team [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted haskell-utils 1.9 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread wibble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:39:24 + Source: haskell-utils Binary: haskell-utils Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.9 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Lynagh (wibble) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ian Lynagh (wibble)

Accepted desktop-file-utils 0.13-1 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Loic Minier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:13:48 +0200 Source: desktop-file-utils Binary: desktop-file-utils Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.13-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Loic Minier

Accepted cowdancer 0.30 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Junichi Uekawa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:50:30 +0900 Source: cowdancer Binary: qemubuilder cowdancer Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.30 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Junichi Uekawa

Accepted shell-fm 0.2+svn20070605.r215-1 (source amd64)

2007-06-05 Thread Nacho Barrientos Arias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:01:53 +0200 Source: shell-fm Binary: shell-fm Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.2+svn20070605.r215-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Nacho Barrientos Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Nacho

Accepted xine-ui 0.99.5-2 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Reinhard Tartler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:41:48 +0200 Source: xine-ui Binary: xine-ui Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.99.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL

Accepted wengophone 2.1.0.dfsg-3 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Marco Nenciarini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:24:40 +0200 Source: wengophone Binary: wengophone Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.1.0.dfsg-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marco Nenciarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marco Nenciarini

Accepted dwm 4.2-2 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Daniel Baumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:13:00 +0200 Source: dwm Binary: dwm Architecture: source i386 Version: 4.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted dbus-python 0.81.1-1 (source i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:27:22 +0100 Source: dbus-python Binary: python-dbus Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.81.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Simon McVittie

Accepted gstreamer0.10 0.10.13-1 (source all i386)

2007-06-05 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:01:07 +0200 Source: gstreamer0.10 Binary: gstreamer-tools gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer0.10-doc libgstreamer0.10-dev libgstreamer0.10-0-dbg libgstreamer0.10-0 Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.10.13-1

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