Re: git workflows (was: Steam Deck: good news for Linux gaming, bad news for Debian :()

2021-08-14 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 14 Aug 2021 at 07:55AM +01, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 03:31:02PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: >> For example, there are those of us who think that the downsides of the >> combination of 3.0 (quilt) and patches stored unapplied in git are >> significant, and so

Re: Bits from the Release Team: say hello to our studious bookworm

2021-08-14 Thread Brian Thompson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, 2021-08-15 at 00:02 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > Hi, > > On 14th August 2021 we released Debian 11 "bullseye". > > There are too many people who should be thanked for their work on > getting > us to this point to list them all

Re: merged /usr

2021-08-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 16:59:24 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > Wouldn't it be kinda strange to have the chroots building the packages > for the first bookworm release using a layout which isn't supported by > bookworm itself… Yes, it's a little strange, but that's what happens when we don't

Re: merged /usr

2021-08-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 02:26:29PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 14:33:44 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > the current 'transition' plan is to have the > > release notes nudge all people who upgrade instead of reinstall their > > systems, chroots and what not to please

Re: merged /usr

2021-08-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 02:08:33PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > Were upgrades impossible in Ubuntu when it switched and were manual > reinstallation mandatory for the entire user base, chroots, whatnot? > No. Then why should it be the case for Debian if we do the exact same > thing with the exact

Re: merged /usr

2021-08-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 14:33:44 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > the current 'transition' plan is to have the > release notes nudge all people who upgrade instead of reinstall their > systems, chroots and what not to please do it for all of them by hand > at a to be specified flag day someday

Re: merged /usr

2021-08-14 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 14:33 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:16:57AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > >  Unless the intention is to deprecate allowing to change > > /etc/apt/sources.list and mandating that only hard-coded official > > Debian repositories can be used on

Re: merged /usr

2021-08-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:16:57AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > Unless the intention is to deprecate allowing to change > /etc/apt/sources.list and mandating that only hard-coded official Debian > repositories can be used on Debian installations, of course, which would be, > uh, interesting

Re: Steam Deck: good news for Linux gaming, bad news for Debian :(

2021-08-14 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Jonathan Dowland schrieb: >> Amarok was removed as it required the obsolete Qt 4 library. Now that >> upstream has finally ported it to Qt5, it could be reintroduced to >> Debian. > > That's an interesting way of presenting the situation. Amarok was > removed because we aggressively removed Qt4,

Re: git workflows (was: Steam Deck: good news for Linux gaming, bad news for Debian :()

2021-08-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 03:31:02PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > For example, there are those of us who think that the downsides of the > combination of 3.0 (quilt) and patches stored unapplied in git are > significant, and so we have made attempts to provide alternatives, such > as git-debrebase.

Re: Steam Deck: good news for Linux gaming, bad news for Debian :(

2021-08-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 04:42:51AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 3:22 AM Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > Debian is missing KDE's Amarok music manager. > > Amarok was removed as it required the obsolete Qt 4 library. Now that > upstream has finally ported it to Qt5, it