Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data (Was: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: There's no point to defining rules without a working implementation, because we don't know what the rules should be. So I tried to do an implementation for the tasks pages of Blends which works for unordered lists as discussed here and I also made

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: And this is like 6 lines of Pseudo code, and less in compact languages like Perl. A fairly trivial exercise in basic CS logic. Please do not insist on the number of lines. I mentioned in my mail [1] that you need a bit more. I did not said

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: While I can't speak for the policy team (I have not been re-delegated yet), I suspect the answer might be to get a working implementation out in the wild (it does not have to be packages.d.o or anything official -- even a standalone software

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data (Was: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Daniel Burrows wrote: For the sorts of markup our descriptions have now it'll be fine, but it's my experience that when you give people a hammer they start hitting everything that's vaguely nail-shaped with it. :-) ROFL. The whole time of discussion was well spent just

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Sure. It would be great to have another implementation, perhaps one that people can play with (something that, for example, one can pipe the output of a grep-dctrl command to, and get an html snippet from (hey, that can then be packaged as an

Re: Bug#525428: ITP: profit -- structural alignment of multiple proteins

2009-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Steffen Moeller wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller steffen_moel...@gmx.de * Package name: profit Version : 3.1 Upstream Author : Andrew Martin and...@bioinf.org.uk, Graig T. Porter * URL :

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Daniel Burrows wrote: I would prefer Restructured Text, for the simple reason that it has an actual specification with a fairly complete description of its syntax and semantics. I do not have practical experience with both and so I do not have any preference. The only

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I've on purpose not looked at Andreas implementation, in order to see if we have mutually thought at different issues. That also means that it can be utterly buggy, you have been warned :-) At short look I have the following diff: ---

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Library OCaml which provide a set of needed and useful macros for developing. Modules and functionality are the follows : . - Configuration_files: Allow to get information from configuration files - Environments: Environments are useful for

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Given that we agree that that example is just plainly broken no matter what, why do you consider it as a valid motivation for throwing all away? That's not what I intended. My intention is to give guidelines which might be independent from a

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [ FWIW, if you want to try it out please use the live version [1], I've just fixed a stupid bug which caused ignoring the last paragraph of a description ] [1]

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff? (was: Re: phyml_20081203-1_powerpc.changes REJECTED)

2009-04-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Noah Slater wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:27:03AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2009-04-26, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 06:03:07PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: FIRST: GO AWAY WITH YOUR STUPID CC'S. I OBVIOUSLY READ THE LIST.

Re: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data

2009-04-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Daniel Burrows wrote: Wow, that's a lot of work! I certainly won't ask you to do it all over again. No, not really. I might replace just the markdown by the reST call. That's probabyl quite cheap and I might try this in the next couple of days even while beeing under

Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff?

2009-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: Also, can you tell us where to write comments related to NEW uploads in plain English, so that it can be documented in the Developers Reference? That's actually a really good question which I would like to formulate even more clear: How to

Comparing MarkDown and reST (Was: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data)

2009-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Daniel Burrows wrote: I'm happy to support whatever markup language people want to use. Same for me. To feed some facts to be able to compare the options I rendered the debug blends pages with reST using the very same code for the preprocessing which does 1. s/^ //

Re: Misc developer news (#15)

2009-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
the liststat effort turned out to be useful in this topic after I wrote to listmaster: On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Cord Beermann wrote: I'd like to take your input into our spamremoval-effort, at least for nominating for review and maybe as one 'spam'-vote

Re: Comparing MarkDown and reST (Was: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data)

2009-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Gunnar Wolf wrote: But I'd prefer dropping 'o' as a bullet marker. Yes, me too. But somewhere in this longish discussion it was suggested to find a solution for currently existing descriptions and ditch these cases later. I do not want to spend my time to seek for the

Re: Comparing MarkDown and reST (Was: Consistent formating long descriptions as input data)

2009-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Well, if you just keep them as transitional period without highlighting them as deprecated in some way, you will end up with them forever. We all know how slow we are with this kind of transitions :) ACK Given that the current semantics was to

Re: Debian is switching to EGLIBC

2009-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 7 May 2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote: not to see this on slashdot or other website. There is a German (not necessarily Linux related) news site who reported immediately: http://www.golem.de/0905/66930.html Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Possible mass bug filing: non-doc packages recommending doc packages

2009-05-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: I bringed the discussion in out maintenance list but dropping Recommends to Suggests is likely to make us provide a broken home page for SWAT by default. We could of course patch SWAT so that the page explicitely says that adding samba-doc is needed

Tasks field in packages file

2009-05-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote in [1]: Those tasks are read from the Packages files (the Task: field that some entries have). I'm not sure how this field is managed. When trying to track down the origin of the task column in UDD[1] I learned that it is just copied from the task

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-05-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: I haven't read the whole long thread, so perhaps this has been mentioned by someone else. Python has recently decided to convert their documentation to reStructuredText [1]. It would make a lot of sense for Debian to use that de-facto standard (or

Re: Should we remove OpenMotif?

2009-05-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:22:21AM -0400, Barry deFreese wrote: OK, just for kicks I just pulled arb and it seems to build fine with lesstif. Though I don't know the package well enough to test runtime. My colleagues worked with a version of arb which was linked against lesstif and noticed

Re: What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-08-06 Thread Andreas Tille
an intermediate place where maintainers could push their meta-data, does anybody think about an alternative? Andreas Tille suggested me the Package Entropy Tracker, but it would limit the system to packages hosted in a Subversion repository. This said, since many of the packages that caused us dig

Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, in the Debian Pure Blends effort we were wondering about relations of packages and what an Enhances relation actually means. Debian Policy says: `Enhances' This field is similar to Suggests but works in the opposite direction. It is used to declare that a package

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:44:49AM +0100, James Westby wrote: I see it as an almost bi-directional relationship, but one that allows you to add it to the package that cares about it more. So the answers somehow draw a sketch about the concept behind the Enhances field - but is it technically

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:35:10AM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: apt-get --include-suggest install -o 'Apt::Install-Suggests=1' Ahh, I remember I was formerly wondering about this option which might be not easy enough to find. But anyway, my main question was whether there is a

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:26:24AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: How do you imagine a technical implementation of a 'Enhances' field? Something like 'apt::install-enhances'? I do not *want* this personally - I just wanted to know if any tool makes use of this field in some way. The

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 01:16:58AM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote on debian-med list[1] but the discussion should be here on debian-devel (Reply-To is set): Once we are at the topic of web tools: I'm really waiting for an answer from you why you think that mgltools fit in your categories

Manually providing popcon data (Was: Future of the s390 port)

2009-09-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:32:14AM +0200, Martin Grimm wrote: So as long as there is no easy manual way to provide anonymized figures without installing software on our production servers we can't deliver such data :-( and yes, I know there are many reasons why a manual upload form would be a

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, many people discussed about answering bug reports: ... I'm soory, but I tried to safe my time and went over most of the mails in this thread but one point I was missing (only one mail of Cobaco was touching the idea a little bit): Not answering a bug report is IMHO at

Re: What happened to Agnula.org (DeMuDi)?

2007-03-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Thank you, seems like. However http://www.agnula.info/download/ points to a highchecked domain. What do you mean by highchecked. Do you mean highjacked? I don't see any evidence for this assumption if I look at this Ploneish site. Maybe I'd

Re: What happened to Agnula.org (DeMuDi)?

2007-03-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Tomas Nykung wrote: DeMuDi is dead, H, well, what exactly means dead? I did not dived into the DeMuDi project personally, but besides producing ISO images ready to install my impression was that the people connected to that project are busy integrating audio related

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: I (continue to) object to the notion of web-based submission of bugs to Debian. Do you really think that someone who can't maneuver reportbug is capable of submitting a useful bug report? IMHO the biggest problem of reportbug is that it is not

Re: What happened to Agnula.org (DeMuDi)?

2007-03-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Tomas Nykung wrote: The reason I didn't recommend the OP to install Etch is that Etch is not ready for multimedia out of the box, most importantly there is no real time enabled kernel in stock Etch, and that is a _must_ when working with real time audio (latency). Well,

Re: Flash player?

2007-03-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Miguel Gea Milvaques wrote: I supose last version is still not in Debian, so you'll need to compile it. Well, if you know that a new version is better than the old version in Debian, why don't you report this as wishlist bug? I did so (#415333) and learned now that a new

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Debian Project Secretary wrote: === |||Total # of| |Valid|Unique|Rejects|| Multiple || ||Year|Developers|Quorum|Votes|Voters| |% Voting| of Quorum||

Re: many rejects (Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007)

2007-03-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Bart Martens wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 07:43 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: The relation between Rejects and Voters is currently the highest we ever had. I'm just asking whether we need some technical improvement here because I personally add a count of three

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Ben Pfaff wrote: However, this is the only ballot I recall containing non-ASCII characters, which could be the cause. Ahhh, this is a typical cause of problems. So we have three chances: 1) fix software that interprets incoming mails 2) issue an alternate ballot

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: My suggestion is to stop using mailcrypt, it is ancient, and hoary; pgg and easypg work a lot better. This is a case of non-functional MUA software. Well, I have to admit that I do not want more or less than voting this time as I did

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: 1) fix software that interprets incoming mails There is nothing wrong with the software that interprets incoming mails; the mails that fail actually fail cryptographic checks since they have been masssaged by the MUA/MTA afterwards,

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Lars Wirzenius wrote: 1. Copy ballot to text file (vote.txt). 2. Edit it for my voting preference. 3. Sign with gpg: gpg --clearsign vote.txt 4. Send: mail -s vote vote.txt.asc [EMAIL PROTECTED] I work in a UTF-8 environment, in case that matters. It might matter, so I

Re: many rejects (Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007)

2007-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Well, in either case, something intervened along the way (some MTA) and protected the accented char after you had sent the mail. The solution is to use a MYA that does properly do PGP/MIME -- or send in an encrypted ballot, which is

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: 3) do not accept DPLs with non-ASCI names. ;-)) Sure, if you think that is better than fixing broken MUAs. I guess you missed the double smiley. Well, no. I think it is funny that one should consider eliminating us pesky people with

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On ke, 2007-03-28 at 14:57 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: just want to give my vote and concentrate on the rankings I want to give and not learn about tools to submit my vote. From memory (my shell history isn't long enough), here's what I did: 1

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: ... In order to type the letter a, look on the keyboard (ask someone ... Manoj, the answer you gave here does not fit the statistics you posted. The statistics do show a problem and I'm a little bit frustrated that you seem to make fun of it.

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:10:53 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: ... In order to type the letter a, look on the keyboard (ask someone ... Manoj, the answer you gave here does

Override CFLAGS when using cdbs

2007-04-03 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I try to package a project that needs to add some include pathes to the existing default CFLAGS and thus I tried to patch a Makefile in one subdir to CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) -I$(INCLUDEDIR) but I had to learn that the CFLAGS variable that is used in the call cd subtree; $(MAKE) just overrides

Re: Override CFLAGS when using cdbs

2007-04-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, [iso-8859-1] Loïc Minier wrote: Actually, the CFLAGS passed to the top-level $(MAKE) are overriding everything. Which I learned by this example and which makes me wonder whether there is absolutely no way out to enforce overriding CFLAGS. I suggest you either try to set

Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: A cdd would be good for some first testing, but having it included in debian would be great. Argh - the usual missunderstanding: If you use the term Custom Debian Distribution your first Google hit gives the definition: Custom Debian Distribution

Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: it true it's debian, but ... i meant in debian's main (general) distribution, that is, as option in tasksel and not only as meta-package ... but there is no problem. Well, there is definitely more in Debian than you can select via tasksel. ;-)) But your

TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: At least, we could preseed some options, (like debian-med) but that wouldn't come in tasksel's options, like kde-desktop and xfce-desktop. IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: [x] Desktop environment

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ben Armstrong wrote: But as Luis pointed out, having material on extra CDs or needing the network to install it is a bit of a problem. Well, IMHO shipping Lenny on CDs is a little bit - how to say - oldfashioned, right? I don't think a warning alone is sufficient (What

Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Er, do you know that it's possible to create a deb that, when installed, extends tasksel with any tasks you like? And d-i has hooks to allow a CDD to easily install such debs. Yes, you are right and I'm even doing this in the med-common package. But I do

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joey Hess wrote: I'm afraid that I can't seriously consider this kind of proposal unless it shows indications of taking into account all the issues and design goals listed in http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/tasksel/faq/ The answer to question one is very compelling if you

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: I think they probably will install via DVD or network. If tasksel keeps its install from one CD medium philosophy Tasksel does not have any such philisophy. Quoting from #186085 From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andreas

Re: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: Yes, you are right and I'm even doing this in the med-common package. But I do not really regard this as a really nice solution if those extra tasks are mixed with the default Debian tasks. Note that you can hide the debian tasks

Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor

2007-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 7 May 2007, Nico Golde wrote: This won't work for the initial mails you get when you upload the package the first time. What about using the Uploaders control field? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 May 2007, [ISO-8859-1] André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote: DebianArt.org is a place for high quality artwork and themes for the Debian Desktop[4]. The idea is use the website for contests, creating an archive of user contributed artwork that can be freely used and included in

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote: Honestly. I would consider those misplaced. The artwork should be debian related - not a bunch of random photographies. (no matter how nice they are.) Perfectly all right for me - that's why I kept my background images as a private package on p.d.o. I

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso wrote: Andreas, kde-look.org would probably be a good place to put those landscapes, though. I'd love to see them there. :-) Well, there is a similar place for Gnome themes were I tried to upload some time ago. They disappeared from there for some

Re: Getting Debian to use less power?

2007-05-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 12 May 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Have a look. I would be trilled if Debian could implement all the tricks to increase battery lifetime, and make sure our users save both the environment and their power bill. ... and can longer sit outside with their laptop when developing

Re: Getting Debian to use less power?

2007-05-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 14 May 2007, Daniel Baumann wrote: Don't you think that if you would have waited a few days, or maybe even fill an RFP, that someone other would have stepped up to maintain it? If you've already created a package, attaching an URL to the RFP helps also. I personally realised that RFPs

Re: CDD: GastroLinux (RFC)

2007-05-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 14 May 2007, Francois-Denis Gonthier wrote: Beware that in (at least fr_FR) french, gastro is also a shortcut for gastroenteritis and is strongly associated with its symptoms! It may really hamper your success in french-speaking countries... ditto for ca_FR that's a very

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian releases: testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half year before it's released as stable. The sooner before the stable, the rapidly increasing is the chance

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote: Don't remember, not too much. However, if hundred of packages had broken deps, This statement is definitely wrong. where would You report the bug? I'm not too experienced with apt and I hate hacking around it. There is no need to hack around

Re: Building packages twice in a row

2007-05-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Wouldn't it be better to unpack a package twice in two different directories, build and clean in one dir and then compare the obtained tree with the tree available in the other dir? I personally store the diff.gz from first build and compare with

Re: Building packages twice in a row

2007-05-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: Sounds like a hack. What do other say? There are different opinions about orig.tar.gz should be equal to upstream. I tend to the opinion that no precompiled stuff that can be builded by the source has to be in orig.tar.gz and in such cases I would

Re: Building packages twice in a row

2007-05-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Adeodato [utf-8] Simó wrote: There are different opinions about orig.tar.gz should be equal to upstream. In case there is confusion, my original suggestion was to remove the files from debian/rules ('clean' target), not to remove them from the orig tarball. I don't think

Group maintainance howto and role of uploaders

2007-05-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I recently started group maintenance of libblitz0 together Konstantinos Margaritis [EMAIL PROTECTED] and just added myself to the Uploaders field. The package recently gathered a bug (#424644) but I got no e-mail notific personally. I draw the conclusion that BTS automatically only informs

[Help] AMD64 specific bug on libblitz0 (#424644)

2007-05-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to ask kindly for support regarding bug #424644 because I do not own any amd64 and thus feel unable to solve this problem. Any hints / patches? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: [Help] AMD64 specific bug on libblitz0 (#424644)

2007-05-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Andreas Metzler wrote: On 2007-05-18 Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to ask kindly for support regarding bug #424644 because I do not own any amd64 and thus feel unable to solve this problem. Any hints / patches? http://lists.debian.org/debian

Re: Group maintainance howto and role of uploaders

2007-05-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Julien Cristau wrote: I don't see how that would be easier than subscribing to the PTS for a package you're co-maintaining. Well, the problem is missing documentation - at least I was not aware of this fact. That's why my main intention was to initiate a Group

Web design [Was: Wanted: introductory page for all teams]

2007-05-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote: Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but contributing to specific pages or parts is trivial. OTOH, I expect that for a webdesign professional even a redesign would be quite manageable as AFAICT the technical structure of the website

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: ... This is only my (ill-informed) opinion - I am neither a German, nor a German lawyer :) I'm not really picky about names and would be quite relaxed if the official homepage http://www.sturmbahnfahrer.com/ would not support the suspicion by using

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Isn't this just a standard blackletter font? Well, I don't know much about standard fonts - it just reminds me to the font that was prefered in a time were the name similarity perfectly fits into. So if somebody might use a name that leads to

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote: Also, you should think about this issue not just in the context of the single package you are interested in but as a general policy. I think because Michael actually is thinking about a general policy he just asked this question here. He was asking for

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote: Then it should be obvious obvious = common sense ... but the commons sense has to be defined in a technical document. that it's a bad idea to add to the archive multiple packages each containing hundred of megabits of data which are only useful

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Bug#38902 for hysterical interest, btw. Ahh, my memory that this topic came up in 2000 was not that bad - just missed it by 7 months. I wonder, whether there is a more verbose explanation for tagging it wontfix

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Are either of you going to debconf, or able to point out some example large (free?) data sets that should be packaged like this as a test case for playing with over debconf? For a first shot we could play with sauerbraten-data. I just stumbled upon it

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: ... (some interesting points) There were many valid points in your mail but even if the issue was raised at the example of biological data it is a more general issue for others as well. It might be that we could: 0. Find a solution for large data sets

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ rpm -qf /etc/redhat-release redhat-release-5Client-5.0.0.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ rpm -ql redhat-release /etc/issue /etc/issue.net /etc/pki/rpm-gpg /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora

Re: Large static datasets like genomes (Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Steffen Moeller wrote: It would be lovely if we could agree on a set of databases to support in Debian and to have a permanent location in the file system for them. For the reasons that Tim has already outlined I do not see to distribute the larger database as Debian

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: That's not true, unfortunately. They also have different design criteria for duty cycles, and more stringent MTBF testing requirements. There's been a lot of assertion in this thread, without any real data, so this post provides links to some hard data

Re: Back to the point (was: Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-06-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I tried to give a meaningful answer to that in [EMAIL PROTECTED], but received no reply; I guess it got drowned in the silly all disks are reliable! noise. Perhaps you may want to read the three final paragraphs there and give your opinion. Well,

Re: Official presentation template

2007-06-25 Thread Andreas Tille
been a short discussion on this topic during Debconf [1] and Andreas Tille collected some ideas about a design. You might want to contact him. I tried to sum up the results of our little boof in DebConf. Perhaps some open discussion might not harm. Please note that all shown images

Re: Official presentation template

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, W. Borgert wrote: I like LaTeX, but I use DocBook XML slides as source and S5-HTML as output for presentations. I have a simple debianesque CSS, I can share. This is perfectly OK. The intention was not to restrict our ideas to LaTeX. I have no ideas in how far the

Re: Official presentation template

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: It would be nice if you uploaded also the files (TeX+figs) you used in your presentation. That way people could still use them as a template, or as a starting point for their own presentations just in case no official template ends up

[Help] Autoconf problems when trying to build WordNet 3.0 package

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I have some trouble building the new version of WordNet. For reasons I do not want to discuss here I had to build a composite source tarball from two different upstream tarballs and had to adjust the autoconf stuff - which obviousely failed. I putted the relevant files to

Re: [Help] Autoconf problems when trying to build WordNet 3.0 package

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Ben Pfaff wrote: OK, I can see now that /usr/lib/tk8.4/tkConfig.sh sets TK_PREFIX in the environment of configure. But what is meant to propagate this environment variable into the Makefile? I don't see anything intended to do that. Autoconf does not automatically

[Help] WordNet - dict conversion (Was: [Help] Autoconf problems when trying to build WordNet 3.0 package)

2007-06-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Azazel wrote: There's an acinclude.m4 file in the 2.1 source which is missing from your 3.0 source which may be relevant. I've attached it. This hint seemed me very reasonable and worked fine. Thanks for all who provided help. Now I was able to prepare packages from

Re: Intend to orphan pscan.

2007-07-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Jon Dowland wrote: I suggest it is also a good idea to try and convince the EMBOSS upstream to try and avoid using binary names that are already in use in the wild. Well, to be more precise it is better to try to convince them to not use such generic names. It might be to

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: When last I looked (some time ago), none of the different XMMS successors were ready for prime time. Are bmpx, audacious, and xmms2 all usable now? I just tried audacious from testing which was not able to even load a single sound file at my side.

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: Could you elaborate on this missing dependency? I'm using audacious in stable for some time with no problems, but I don't know if the dependency is satisfied by accident on my desktop system. I installed audacious and started it. I tried to add a

Any problems with mips/mipsel?

2007-07-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the latest package of tipptrainer was not builded on mips(el) since 55 days according to http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=tipptrainer Did I missed anything? How can I trigger the building on this architecture? A similar situation is there for phylip

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Removing the package from Debian will not affect current users that much, While I perfectly agree that there are replacements for xmms that at first view look like a new version (for instnce audacious) many user might have links form their desktops

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Steve Greenland wrote: * can create desktop links and scripts Yes. * will notice the xmms has been removed Perhaps not because of some dependencies (perhaps because GTK 1.x will be removed) it might be removed by aptitude / synaptics besides a lot of other stuff. *

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Jon Dowland wrote: If a user removes the package themselves, even if they don't realise it, via a dependency chain with GTK 1.x or something similar, I don't have a great deal of sympathy. Did you ever heard about the multi-user concept? Kind regards Andreas.

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: I'm opposed to people who drink the GNOME koolaid and call it usability. Call it like you want. We call it usability, and it looks incompatible with what a number of developers expect from the menu system. I don't think that there is something

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 16 juillet 2007 à 12:25 -0500, Steve Greenland a écrit : So I can try a new window manager without restarting my xsession. Does your job include daily window manager testing? Interesting criterion: Daily use of an entry. H So

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